SadGame Wrote:
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> Thanks for your kindness sahara71
> I am doing fine, ups and downs.
>
> I lack any feeling of belonging, which is why an
> ultimate identity with pure consciousness is very
> appealing to me. It is beyond human relationships
> and independent of them.
>
> That is also why laughter is so effective as a
> manipulative and rhetoric device, as is being
> discussed here now. It is quite obvious to me that
> mooji uses this all the time to overrule any
> thoughts or feelings that he deems unwelcome,
> either to the spiritual growth of the questioner,
> or to his authority as the ultimate beacon of
> truth.
>
> I like how saharah71 uses Moo instead of Mooji to
> deflate his God like status to human proportions,
> Some of his followers started using moojiji at
> Some point, just one honorary epithet apparantly
> seemed insufficiënt, where now guruji seems more
> common.
>
> Moo’s acceptance of personal devotion to him is in
> stark contrast to the impersonal content of his
> teaching and is hypocritical in that any personal
> story is cast aside as an obstacle to the
> realization of truth, except for the story of his
> personal realization of this ultimate truth and
> his embodiment of it. I think, if you meet the
> buddha on the road, kill him.
>
> Laugh all you want, i don’t want to be the subject
> of Your laughter, i want to be loved.
It is very natural to want to belong and to want to be loved, SadGame. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is what everyone wants. It means you are healthy!
Yes, Moo dismisses everyone else's "story" but seems to be obsessed with his own story, like a true narcissist. He tells long, boring, convoluted tales all the time, but he isn't interested in listening to anyone else.
Boring people into a coma is another way to induce a trance state, and I am not joking about this, either. Look it up.
I was in a vulnerable place when I became interested in Moo's teachings. I was on a kind of working holiday and I was alone a lot. It was comforting for me to fill in time watching YouTube videos... something I would normally rarely ever do. I'm usually more into books. But believe it or not, I was overseas and I couldn't find any books in English!!
I did begin to doubt why I was suddenly so interested in an obscure spiritual teacher. I thought "this is so not at all like me". I had always been into spirituality and had read Eckhart Tolle and quite a few others, but while I found these ideas interesting, I didn't think they were especially helpful to me. I thought that they were somewhat impractical ideas.... I don't know... There is something very glib about Tolle.
Life is very complex. You can't just dismiss genuine pain, genuine suffering as though it doesn't exist! That is losing touch with reality, as far as I am concerned. If you pretend pain and suffering don't matter at all, then you are less likely to want to help people and to want to improve society. That is not a good way to live.
If you look into the heart of Buddhist teachings, for example, you will see that this religion is all about compassion. Compassion is very important.
Moo seems to teach a form of instant enlightenment that is all about personal gratification! It's a "feel good" band-aid approach to life's problems. And apart from that, it doesn't work and isn't legitimate, anyway... It's only scam to allow a washed-out old narcissist with a Jesus complex to exert power over people (and take their money and possibly have sex with them - more on that later.)
I think you picked up on a very important point in your first post, SadGame. You said something about self-inquiry being devoid of morality. That it is. And believe me, that's got to make is very, very appealing to a lot of people!
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> Thanks for your kindness sahara71
> I am doing fine, ups and downs.
>
> I lack any feeling of belonging, which is why an
> ultimate identity with pure consciousness is very
> appealing to me. It is beyond human relationships
> and independent of them.
>
> That is also why laughter is so effective as a
> manipulative and rhetoric device, as is being
> discussed here now. It is quite obvious to me that
> mooji uses this all the time to overrule any
> thoughts or feelings that he deems unwelcome,
> either to the spiritual growth of the questioner,
> or to his authority as the ultimate beacon of
> truth.
>
> I like how saharah71 uses Moo instead of Mooji to
> deflate his God like status to human proportions,
> Some of his followers started using moojiji at
> Some point, just one honorary epithet apparantly
> seemed insufficiënt, where now guruji seems more
> common.
>
> Moo’s acceptance of personal devotion to him is in
> stark contrast to the impersonal content of his
> teaching and is hypocritical in that any personal
> story is cast aside as an obstacle to the
> realization of truth, except for the story of his
> personal realization of this ultimate truth and
> his embodiment of it. I think, if you meet the
> buddha on the road, kill him.
>
> Laugh all you want, i don’t want to be the subject
> of Your laughter, i want to be loved.
It is very natural to want to belong and to want to be loved, SadGame. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is what everyone wants. It means you are healthy!
Yes, Moo dismisses everyone else's "story" but seems to be obsessed with his own story, like a true narcissist. He tells long, boring, convoluted tales all the time, but he isn't interested in listening to anyone else.
Boring people into a coma is another way to induce a trance state, and I am not joking about this, either. Look it up.
I was in a vulnerable place when I became interested in Moo's teachings. I was on a kind of working holiday and I was alone a lot. It was comforting for me to fill in time watching YouTube videos... something I would normally rarely ever do. I'm usually more into books. But believe it or not, I was overseas and I couldn't find any books in English!!
I did begin to doubt why I was suddenly so interested in an obscure spiritual teacher. I thought "this is so not at all like me". I had always been into spirituality and had read Eckhart Tolle and quite a few others, but while I found these ideas interesting, I didn't think they were especially helpful to me. I thought that they were somewhat impractical ideas.... I don't know... There is something very glib about Tolle.
Life is very complex. You can't just dismiss genuine pain, genuine suffering as though it doesn't exist! That is losing touch with reality, as far as I am concerned. If you pretend pain and suffering don't matter at all, then you are less likely to want to help people and to want to improve society. That is not a good way to live.
If you look into the heart of Buddhist teachings, for example, you will see that this religion is all about compassion. Compassion is very important.
Moo seems to teach a form of instant enlightenment that is all about personal gratification! It's a "feel good" band-aid approach to life's problems. And apart from that, it doesn't work and isn't legitimate, anyway... It's only scam to allow a washed-out old narcissist with a Jesus complex to exert power over people (and take their money and possibly have sex with them - more on that later.)
I think you picked up on a very important point in your first post, SadGame. You said something about self-inquiry being devoid of morality. That it is. And believe me, that's got to make is very, very appealing to a lot of people!