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Re: Christopher Hansard

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I got that interesting financial material for CH.
REGISTERED NUMBER: 07047172 (England and Wales)
Abbreviated Unaudited Accounts for the Year Ended 31 October 2015
for Christopher Hansard Limited

Contents of the Abbreviated Accounts
for the Year Ended 31 October 2015
Page
Company Information 1
Abbreviated Balance Sheet 2
Notes to the Abbreviated Accounts 3
Report of the Accountants 5
DIRECTOR: C Hansard
SECRETARY:
REGISTERED OFFICE: Cullips House
4 Nesbitts Alley
High Street
Barnet
Hertfordshire
EN5 5XG
REGISTERED NUMBER: 07047172 (England and Wales)
ACCOUNTANTS: MICHAEL B BENNETT LIMITED
Cullips House
4 Nesbitts Alley
Barnet
Hertfordshire
EN5 5XG

Christopher Hansard Limited (Registered number: 07047172)
Abbreviated Balance Sheet
31 October 2015
31.10.15
31.10.14
Notes £ £ £ £
FIXED ASSETS
Intangible assets 2
51,000
52,500
Tangible assets 3
5,302
6,422
56,302
58,922
CURRENT ASSETS
Cash at bank
409
1,917
CREDITORS
Amounts falling due within one year
29,742
35,240
NET CURRENT LIABILITIES (29,333) (33,323)
TOTAL ASSETS LESS CURRENT
LIABILITIES
26,969
25,599
CAPITAL AND RESERVES
Called up share capital 4 1 1
Profit and loss account
26,968
25,598
SHAREHOLDERS' FUNDS
26,969
25,599
The company is entitled to exemption from audit under Section 477 of the Companies Act 2006 for the year
ended 31 October 2015.
The members have not required the company to obtain an audit of its financial statements for the year
ended 31 October 2015 in accordance with Section 476 of the Companies Act 2006.
The director acknowledges his responsibilities for:
(a)
ensuring that the company keeps accounting records which comply with Sections 386 and 387 of the
Companies Act 2006
and
(b)
preparing financial statements which give a true and fair view of the state of affairs of the company as
at the end of each
financial year and of its profit or loss for each financial year in accordance with the requirements of
Sections 394 and 395 and
which otherwise comply with the requirements of the Companies Act 2006 relating to financial
statements, so far as
applicable to the company.
The abbreviated accounts have been prepared in accordance with the special provisions of Part 15 of the
Companies Act 2006 relating to small companies.
The financial statements were approved by the director on 4 March 2016 and were signed by:
C Hansard - Director
for the Year Ended 31 October 2015
1. ACCOUNTING POLICIES
Accounting convention
The financial statements have been prepared under the historical cost convention and in accordance
with the Financial
Reporting Standard for Smaller Entities (effective April 2008).
Turnover
Turnover represents net invoiced sales of goods, excluding value added tax.
Goodwill
Goodwill, being the amount paid in connection with the acquisition of a business in 2009, is being
amortised evenly over its estimated useful life of twenty years.
Tangible fixed assets
Depreciation is provided at the following annual rates in order to write off each asset over its
estimated useful life.
Deferred tax
Deferred tax is recognised in respect of all timing differences that have originated but not reversed at
the balance sheet date.
2. INTANGIBLE FIXED ASSETS
Total
£
COST
At 1 November 2014
and 31 October 2015
60,000
AMORTISATION
At 1 November 2014
7,500
Amortisation for year
1,500
At 31 October 2015
9,000
NET BOOK VALUE
At 31 October 2015 51,000
At 31 October 2014 52,500
3. TANGIBLE FIXED ASSETS
Total
£
COST
At 1 November 2014 10,965
Additions 649
At 31 October 2015 11,614
DEPRECIATION
At 1 November 2014 4,543
Charge for year 1,769
At 31 October 2015 6,312
NET BOOK VALUE
At 31 October 2015 5,302
At 31 October 2014 6,422
4. CALLED UP SHARE CAPITAL
Allotted, issued and fully paid:
Number: Class: Nominal 31.10.15 31.10.14
value: £ £ 1 Ordinary 1

Re: How to ID a bad situation and either avoid it or get out quickly

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I didnt say this was completely transferable, just made a suggestion.

The kind of waiver form to watch out for is illustrated here.

[forum.culteducation.com]

Re: How to ID a bad situation and either avoid it or get out quickly

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> I think there can be good reasons for secrecy:
>
> 1. If you started on the topic of employment,
> companies will try to secure valuable know-how.
>
> 2. A psychologist I know visited a professional
> training course, where they were asked not to
> disclose the content of some roleplaying
> exercises, because a new person attending the
> course in the future was supposed to react in a
> spontaneous way rather than planned.
>
> 3. I went to a sort of martial arts course, where
> we were asked not to show the exercises to other
> people, because they might learn them the wrong
> way, possibly leading to wrong results.
>
> Other points don't seem to be portable to the
> "cults" topic.

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings..."

President John F. Kennedy, Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, April 27, 1961

[www.zdnet.com]

If you’re a private organization, unless somebody complains, you can be as secretive as you want, especially with policies and trade secrets; but, if you’re fully or partly funded by taxpayers’ money, you have a social obligation to answer to public inquiries.

Tax-exempted religious organizations are considered partly funded by taxpayers' money. In an open society, inquiry is king.

Re: Hare Krishna sects not related to Chris Butler/SOI

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Thanks for posting this rama. It's astounding how many apologists there are. The people being put in positions of educating kids from the time of prabhupad had no background checks done, zero teaching experience and far from qualified to deal with emotional deterioration of students. The poor kids were robbed of any critical thinking and life skills. The schools bred them to remain within the structure of the cult. I know so many of these kids and butlers school was no better. A pseudo social spiritual experiment at the expense of unwitting kids. Often they were told that by being in the school they were helping their parents serve God. Meanwhile the parents, ran around collecting money to give to the guru to fund their ridiculous ambitions of big temples, more disciples and amassing land.

All this sad nonsense for a life goal that most children found to be magical and fantastical. It was hung over their heads that if they behaved, kept silent and kept on chanting, that they would go to their blue God and dance and play all day. If not, God would rip them up like the dirty demon hiranyakashipu (who they were taught all karmis were like) or they would be picked apart by the yamadutas. They were told that disobeying their guru was offensive. The kids grew up with little to no self worth outside the construct of the cult.

Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity

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That's kind of what SIF and butler devotees tried to do with thier ridiculous web campaigns. There must be at least 100 sites all related to butler. They are basically simplistic sites that give little to no authentic info about butler. In essence they have attempted to paint over the butler empire as a Ekhart Tolle style meditation group.

Re: How to ID a bad situation and either avoid it or get out quickly

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Privacy is negotiated in a context of fair dealing and mutual respect. Privacy is
consensual and all parties know all of the background information.

Secrecy is done in the context of a power imbalance and in which the underlings
are not given all information needed to give un coerced consent.

Secrecy and fear go together. One feels trapped. The power holder desires control.

What we are objecting to is secrecy.

Here are some other posts about secrecy

[forum.culteducation.com]

[forum.culteducation.com]

Re: A Sufi Cult

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"You never bring friends to church with you because
> you are embarrassed by how weird the church is
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If things go on at your lodge that you don't feel you can tell your
outside friends, and worse, you feel you must not discuss this with members of your own lodge, this is how oppression takes over.

Bad enough to keep secrets from your outside friends; it is even more oppressive to keep secrets from yourself, you fear to have a conscious inner dialogue about your own life.

When there are too many incidents you fear to admit to yourself, fear to reflect upon within yourself, your inner life dries up. It happens at first at the edges of your awareness, the way some eye diseases blind us by eroding our side/peripheral vision. One can lose most of one's vision without awareness of loss if blindness creeps in from the periphery.

One goes numb inside. This can be mistaken for serenity, but lacks the vibrance of serenity.

One may cease to have dreams -- especially if one is required to discuss one's dreams with a lodge preceptor or with a therapist affiliated with your lodge whom you fear does not respect confidentiality. (One good reason among many why ethical therapists avoid conflicts of interest.)

One may grow numb and become more and more dependent upon the joyful feelings manufactured by the group's rituals.

Over time You can find it too much of an effort to maintain lodge life and outside friendships, precisely because there are too many things you cannot tell your friends.

So, over time you may, by default, spend less time with your outside friends and end up with only the church and its people for company. You can
end up surrounded by people who have done the same thing -- dropped
outside relationships.

Ever so slowly, like fog drifting in, you end up lacking outside perspective.

**And..one of the things you dont like to be aware of is...feeling trapped. That becomes one of the things you find you dont want to face, and that feeling of being trapped becomes another secret you keep from yourself. It can be tempting to become yet busier with church or group projects and convince yourself that all this is right for you. And that feeling trapped is just a temptation from ego.

And because one often drops outside friendships by default, by not
thinking about it, you dont realize you've done it.

And these days, when so many of us have the 'busy disease' our
outside friends may be too distracted to catch on that they
are not seeing us quite so often.

Some exploitative leaders and groups deliberately keep people busy for
exactly this reason - no time to think.

When one is run ragged, whether by secular society or by an exploitative
guru or employer, one becomes too busy to be a person. One becomes a blur.

And..finally. Watch out if during pastoral counseling or shepherding, you are told something about yourself that turns into an oppressive secret.

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An off balance Sheikh or Pir or Msd
wants you to keep secrets. God doesnt deal in secrecy.

Privacy is negotiated between equals. Privacy supports truthfulness. Secrecy
generates lies and oppression.

Secrecy is imposed -- and it serves the Adversary. Paul told his judges that he
preached openly and things were not done in a corner.

Whispers and rumors and secret keeping are signs of a bad relationship, whether a group or friendship going sour -- or a church going sour.

The ways to confuse us are many.

* Keeping people busy and short on sleep. This hampers our ability
to use critical thinking -- and that includes discernment, a delicate
process.

* Exploiting crises when people are under stress due to hardship
in their lives. This happens to any of us - we get sick, or someone we
love gets sick or has some other hardship.

* People we love and trust are tricked into putting their trust
in something misleading and we trust their recommendation because we love
them as friends. This happened to me.

* Hanging onto good memories and not being able to face that a once
trustworthy leader or group has changed for the worse.

*Becoming used to living with unease. I have fallen into this trap a lot. I
grew up in a very anxious family and so before I could think, I was
accustomed to living in the midst of unease. People from this kind of background
can easily ignore bad signs or incongruities.

Properly taught and understood, God works through creation and through our bodies and relationships, not against them.

* Are you getting sick more often? When I got out of a bad situation, I
had fewer colds. A girl pal of mine who was involved in a miserable relationship
and got out of it, was amazed when her grades improved and her anemia went away. She'd been suffering heavy GYN bleeding due to stress. When she left this
bad situation, her health improved.

* If you get sick do you discover you are glad because that means you dont have
to go to church or to meetings of a group that is making you miserable?

* Do you find yourself feeling angry or anxious or depressed when on your way to church or a group that you formerly enjoyed?

*Are you doing more stress eating? Doing shopping compulsions you never had before? Instead of feeling shame and berating yourself, treat these as clues and apply discernment. I was once very angry at someone. Instead of being able to face this, I did something I had not done before -- purchased and read books about battles and military affairs. I remember being puzzled. Only after I got out of the situation did I realize I was feeling as though in a war, and acted it out in my choice of reading materials. So...notice changes in your own behavior -- it may be a sign of a secret you are keeping from yourself.

* You find you are putting more effort into hiding things about yourself
because you dont want to allow an opening that could lead to your being
reprimanded

* You learn to avoid key words or topics that trigger discord or work requests
from your domineering leader

* You stop telling your family or friends about what is going on because you feel afraid that if you do tell theml, they will stare and think it is strange or bad for you and you dont want to face this kind of honest input from your friends.

Re: Christopher Hansard

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Credit Rating - CHRISTOPHER HANSARD LIMITED CHRISTOPHER-HANSARD-LIMITED

ANALYSIS
Credit Risk Update: CHRISTOPHER HANSARD LIMITED, CULLIPS HOUSE, 4 NESBITTS ALLEY, BARNET, HERTFORDSHIRE, EN5 5XG. Other human health activities. The legal status is a Private Limited Company and the current status at the registry of companies is Active. The last filed accounts are dated 31 October 2015. The company was incorporated on 16 October 2009.

The accounts next due date is 31 July 2017. There are no mortgages.

The above was based on public record information as at 22 May 2016 and may not reflect the current status. Please access the current report to ascertain the current status and credit rating.

CHRISTOPHER HANSARD LIMITED business sector includes chiropodist (nhs), chiropodist (private), chiropractor clinic (on their own account), clinic (health service), collection of female human urine for hormone extraction, community health service, community medical service clinics, community psychiatric nurse (nhs), dental hygienist, dental therapist, disablement services centres, district nurse, family planning association clinics (not providing medical treatment), foot clinic (nhs), foot clinic (private), health centre, health visitor, home nurse (nhs), homeopath (not registered medical practitioner), limb fitting centre, mass radiography service, maternity and child welfare services, maternity clinic, medical laboratories, midwife (nhs), midwife (private), neuropath, nurse (private), nursing co-operative, occupational therapist (private), ophthalmic clinic, osteopath (not registered medical practitioner), para-medical practitioner activities, pathological laboratory, physiotherapist (private), physiotherapy clinic, psychiatric clinic, psychiatric day hospital, psychologist, public health laboratory, radiographer (private), school dental nurse, school health service, school medical clinic, scottish ambulance service, speech therapist (nhs), speech therapist (on their own account), sperm banks, st andrew’s ambulance brigade, st john's ambulance brigade, transplant organ banks, ambulance service, artificial kidney unit, artificial limb and appliance centre, blood banks, blood transfusion service.
SUMMARY
Registered Number: 07047172
Date Incorporated: 16 October 2009
Date Latest Accounts: 31 October 2015

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Whistleblower

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Whistleblower


You told me not to worry
It's all for the greater good
Who made you judge and jury
Who gave you the axe and hood
You wanted it sealed

I'll tell the real story
I'm the bird that sings
I'm the whistleblower
Wake up and take warning
Congressmen and kings
I'm the whistleblower
Waiting in the wings

You told me keep it quiet
That I'd ruin everything
But I'd rather start a riot
Than help you pull these strings
You told me to kneel

I'll tell the real story
I'm the bird that sings
I'm the whistleblower
Wake up and take warning
Congressmen and kings
I'm the whistleblower
Waiting in the wings

Watching, waiting in the wings

I'll tell the real story
I'm the bird that sings
I'm the whistleblower
Wake up and take warning
Congressmen and kings
I'm the whistleblower
Waiting in the wings

Watching, waiting in the wings
Watching, waiting in the wings


Thrice- Whistleblower

Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity

Re: Eric Allen Bell

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I got in touch with someone who knew Eric Allen Bell in his early days, when he was definitely starting a small cult. And she has sent me an email with her recollections and observations about Eric then and Eric now. I will copy it in below, with her permission:


My daughter was one of Eric’s roommates in the late 1990s in California. He was just starting to see his screenwriting career take off and would late move out into a place of his own. He was very likable but kind of had a “Hollywood” vibe to him when you first met him. But he was charismatic and funny and people liked him.

I was recently divorced and studying for a new career, which is the career I have now. I lived close by and spent a lot time at the house they were all renting. I noticed that Eric was having meetings about once a week in the living room. At first I thought it was an A.A. meeting or some kind of support group. I dropped by spontaneously once only to find that my daughter was not there. I asked Eric what kind of meeting they were having and he said it was a discussion. When I asked him what kind of discussion he said, “Why don’t you have a seat and join us?” So I did.

Eric was talking for probably about 30 minutes straight. I have to admit that I was transfixed. I couldn’t believe he had so much wisdom for someone so young. There was maybe about 9 or 10 people there, mostly younger people. I noticed that the boys were dressed a lot like Eric.

I wanted to ask some questions because he was talking about spirituality and this really peaked my interest, but my daughter came home. She motioned for me to come upstairs with her, to her room. I said, “I’ll be right there honey” and she looked sort of nervous and upset and motioned for me to come right away.

My daughter told me that she thought Eric had started a cult. I told her there was still a lot she did not know about the world and that Eric had a special kind of wisdom. I said I wanted to go back downstairs and listen to him speak and ask some questions. She and I got into a bit of a fight. “Eric is what you said you got mixed up in up in Oregon when I was little” she said. That shut me up. She was talking about Rajneesh.

I was one of the “Sannyasins” which is the word given to the disciples of the Indian guru who had taken over a town in Oregon. If you don’t remember him, he was the one who also owned 90 Rolls Royces. My husband and I had sold our house and our cars and had moved to Rajneeshpurm in Oregon and given everything we had owned to Bhagwan. We lived there for a while when the kids were little and eventually we came home to live with my mom until my husband could go back to work.

Anyway, my daughter was now a young adult and afraid that I was going to get caught up in something like that again. I told her that Eric was different. I spent numerous hours listening to Rajneesh and Eric was different. I couldn’t explain it, but I asked her to just trust me. I told her that I feel my heart open up when he was speaking to the group like that and it was just what I needed at the time. But when I finally went downstairs, the meeting had ended.

A couple girls stayed behind to clean up and I was able to speak to Eric alone for a while. I told him that I felt something when he spoke and asked if it would be possible for us to get together. He said yes. I was delighted. All I could think about for the new several days was how much I was looking forward to him coming over to my place to talk.

Looking back on it now I feel like such a fool sometimes, but I also believe that everything happens for a reason. I don’t regret the past. I just try to learn from it.

Anyway, I will try to make this long story short. I became a member of these weekly meetings. The purpose of the meetings, according to Eric, was “inquiry” and “self-realization”. People would ask questions and Eric would answer. No offering basket was ever passed around. In fact, one of the young men asked if he could bring a friend next time and Eric told him no, that he only wanted people there who were serious. When I told my daughter this she agreed that it did not sound like a cult. Maybe it was just a small spiritual group having meetings.

The few times that Eric came to where I lived, it was different. He turned off all the lights, lit a candle and told me to sit in Lotus position. Then he led me into a sort of meditation. Once my mind was quiet he did something called “Shaktipat”. He placed his finger between my eyebrows and it was like electricity was coming out of him. I know that sounds strange, but this was my experience. I usually fell back to the floor and then rolled around in a state of pure ecstasy.

Finally one day I took out my checkbook and told Eric that I wanted to make some kind of a donation, for his time. He declined. I couldn’t wait to tell that to my daughter. At this point she was convinced he was not running a cult at all and that maybe Eric was the kind of teacher I had been looking for back when I ended up with Rajneesh (by the way, he is also called Osho).

At this point I’m just going to cut to the chase. When I got divorced my husband hid most of his money and I got next to nothing. But he did pay my daughter’s rent and school. After Eric did Shaktipat on her, she took Eric to see my ex-husband, you was a very well off doctor, who was living in a big house and had several cars. This was about the time that Eric also disappeared from my life. Then he moved out of the house he was sharing with my daughter and a few other young people.

Both my daughter and I were shocked and hurt and confused when we discovered that my ex had paid off Eric’s car loan (I think he was driving a Jetta in those days). He also set him up with a very nice house in South Pasadena, which is a very wealthy area. The house I’m told had a big living room and Eric continued to hold his meetings, but they became more exclusive and more secretive. After that mostly what I heard were just rumors.

My daughter did finally tell me more about what happened between Eric and my ex-husband however. My ex claims that Eric never asked for everything, but appeared to him in a dream along side the Hindu gods Krishna and Shiva. And his “spirit guides” told him to give Eric an account, sort of like a trust fund, to build a worldwide spiritual movement. I think this is how Global One came into being, many years later.

My daughter tried to convince her dad that Eric had brainwashed him, but he wasn’t having it. He said they would have to agree to disagree and that, if she kept bothering him about Eric, he would have to remove her from his life. His own daughter!

Eric continued to pursue screenwriting and directed an independent film. But he never had a job. Instead he had a small clique of wealthy admirers and devotees. And he was careful not to have anything about the meetings ever publicized. No one who came to the house was allowed to take pictures. The whole thing was very secretive.

My ex-husband and I are on speaking terms today. Both he and I have been to therapy together to work out our “stuff”. But one of the things we talked about only a little was Eric. He says he just wants to forget that part of his life, whatever that means. I think he handed over millions of dollars. I’m not sure. All I have to go on there is what our daughter tells me. I don’t know what they had a falling out about, but this must have been around 2007 or so.

Then I read about the documentary in Murfreesboro and that he was palling around with Michael Moore. “Oh brother” I thought “Is he going to brainwash the master of propaganda?” I really thought that Eric was going to get inside of Michael Moore’s head and commandeer his fame and influence to expand the reach of Eric Allen Bell (he used to be called Eric Edborg).

Here is the last part of my long story and I’m sorry this is turning out so long. An acquaintance of my daughter’s was an ex-girlfriend of Eric’s. She reached out to him in 2011 and he told her he was depressed. He said he just edited together a documentary and figured out that he got it all wrong. He gave back all of the money and didn’t have much left to live on. He had tried to ask the Global One subscribers to chip in to keep that going, but not much came in. Then he wrote those Daily Kos articles about Islam and things got much worse for Eric. I think he lost most of his followers at that time. He also got cut off from his family, who was already pretty much done with him over the cult stuff.

The ex-girlfriend is still friends with my daughter. She said that Eric was living in motels, writing articles for Front Page but not getting paid for it. Then he was blamed for making the YouTube video that had all those Muslims rioting and some Christian families took him in, until he was told it was probably safe to go back into public. He was moved to I think 3 houses and now none of those people will talk to him because he went onto Facebook and insulted Christianity.

I didn’t have much time to prepare all of this. So some of what I have to tell you is incomplete. But I think he has made peace with his dad whose parents left Eric a sizeable amount of money. He has been rebuilding his living room meeting scene again, but with an emphasis on stopping Islam and stopping all forms of organized religion. He lives somewhere in Beverly Hills and is unmarried.

He advertises Global One on Facebook and Google, but only to people in Beverly Hills. Then he tries to recruit them. I guess it’s all working. My daughter’s husband ran into Eric at a restaurant in Beverly Hills last year and they talked for a while. He said that Eric finally said he had to get back to his table. It was a big table and all of the people sitting at it were waiting for, you guessed, Eric. And Eric was talking and talking. My son in law says it was the same Eric as years before, only much more polished and much more magnetic. He said that the people looked like rich zombies.

On April 21, 2013 I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior. I finally found what I had been looking for all my life. People like Eric sprout up in different places. They seem to promise to fill a spiritual void. I don’t mean to preach, but I feel that void can only be filled with the love of Jesus Christ. Eric is a false prophet. And someday he might have to answer for that. I am glad I was contacted about this because it’s reminded me to pray for Eric.

I think that’s where I’ll leave it for now. I will pray for him. Eric has a lot of extraordinary gifts, but he is not using them to glorify the Lord. If he chooses to take his reward in this life, then he’s going to have eternity to regret it. I don’t want that for him. I don’t want that for anyone. I hope that in some small way my story helps you to stop him, before he leads more people astray.

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First hand reports of this kind are invaluable.

Many people have described receiving bliss tingles aka "shaktipat" from various
persons.

Too often the witnesses and happy recipients assume that shaktipat proves
that whoever gives it has virtue and wisdom.

Whatever "shaktipat" is, it appears to be a skill that can be learned, and that by itself, "shaktipat" does not demonstrate that someone has wisdom and virtue.

Paul of Tarsus warned of the need to test the spirits. Just because a human being
can produce this effect does not mean that person is benevolent.

In fact, one can ask why someone is not content to be a human among humans.

Too often, ambitious and power hungry persons are the ones who do all they can
to learn the skills of charisma.

Len Oakes wrote a book, Prophetic Charisma, describing how charismatic persons
are human, all too human. They cannot enjoy ordinary peer relationships. They have a sense of emptiness that drives them to elicit love and attention from an audience, because they are unable to nourish themselves in peer human relationships.

Oakes described how all the chrismatic leaders he interviewed had been avid students of social manipulation when young.

Some have reported that they became addicted to shaktipat. Many who get these bliss transfers care only for the bliss and show no concern when told that their
shaktipat guru is abusing a multitude of underlings.

This is the mentality of the drug addict who ignores the rights of other persons
because seeking the high is all that matters.

Re: Eric Allen Bell

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I know for a fact that EAB has this ability to do Shaktipat. It truly does seem supernatural. I don't think that it has anything to do with hypnotism or group think. There is something incredible happening. And yet, one hears of other people as well who have this ability and are running a cult. I think Muktananda was one of them.

So if EAB is able to harness this power and influence so many people (these days he is influencing millions of people to warn them about Islam) and his this cult of personality... what can we do to stop him? And why would God allow someone like that to have this gift of the Spirit?

Re: Final Dimension 3, FD3, Kent Carruso, Kent Craig Carruso, Alan Tratner

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There are at least three gurus who were, by many first hand reports,
expert at delivering bliss tingles to people.

1) Rudrananda (aka. Rudi)

2) Chetananda (A student of Rudi's)


3) Muktananda

Fire School of Ministry (Formerly Brownsville Revival School of Ministry)

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This video below is a testimony to the things I saw and experienced while attending Fire School of Ministry. Fire School of Ministry, according to Dr. Michael L. Brown who was one of the founders and current acting president of the school, has stated that the school was born out of the fires of revival.

While that may sound exciting, my experience attending his school revealed hyper-authoritarianism and many, many cult techniques to draw students into very deep levels of submission which are not Biblical, nor godly.

Just for the record, I make some jokes about these things, but please understand why. When you go through stuff like this, you can't let it embitter you. Jesus has set me free from this organization, and I'm like a calf kicking its heels coming out of a stall. It is the joy of the LORD that is my strength, and it is the truth that has set me free.

I have fixed my eyes on eternity, and have forgiven these men for their actions, but eternity will reveal what this organization has been up to for over 2 decades. I may be the first to come forth, but you can bet countless people suffered under this "ministry school" scheme. My hope and prayer is that the people who need to see this will do so before they make the wrong decision themselves and get caught up in their mess.

At one point, I share that I was raised a catholic. I am no longer a catholic, I'm a born again, blood-bought, Bible-believing follower of Jesus.

Here is my video testimony to their cult tactics:

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Re: Liquid Church

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Driscoll's model of leadership is a pyramid scheme and it's rampant in churches and ministry schools across the Pentecostal/Charismatic, Evangelical, and even the Baptist denominations.

The scheme is not new, as the Catholic Church is built the same way, but a guy named John Bevere renewed this scheme among Christian ministries with his book Under Cover.

Ihop KC, Bethel Church Redding, Fire School of Ministry, Morningstar Ministry, Elevation Church, Newspring Church, the list goes on and on.

Any time you have a megachurch, it's likely a pyramid scheme.

These ministry models are steeped in hypocrisy, which Jesus warned about. Paul in 1 Tim. 4:1-5 explains what hypocrisy in ministries brings forth and its demonic.

Many of these ministries are practicing witchcraft mind control over the congregants as they heap up followers who blindly tithe and never question anything.

Re: Eric Allen Bell

Wai Lana Namaste Video Contest

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I accidentally stumbled upon the fact that Wai Lana is having her "fans" (cult member brainwashed children) re-edit her atrocious auto-tune song with themselves edited in.

Look up Wai Lana Namaste Video Contest.

This one from Kalindi Head features her daughter most definitely praying to Wai Lana in the middle of the video:

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One from the illustrious Tomayo cult family: [youtu.be]

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An edit from Sita Strickland that appropriates footage of Africans and insinuates that they really dig Wai Lana and the Chris Butler cult

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I re-labeled one of mine and it's doing well under "Wai Lana Namaste" results already:

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Re: How to ID a bad situation and either avoid it or get out quickly

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If you’re a private organization, unless somebody complains, you can be as secretive as you want, especially with policies and trade secrets; but, if you’re fully or partly funded by taxpayers’ money, you have a social obligation to answer to public inquiries.

Tax-exempted religious organizations are considered partly funded by taxpayers' money. In an open society, inquiry is king.

I was assuming there is a limit so such openness, such as what assets are being moved. As opposed to being open about all activities.

But of course that would happen to the extent that is required by the law (which I don't know).

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Privacy is negotiated in a context of fair dealing and mutual respect. Privacy is
consensual and all parties know all of the background information.

Secrecy is done in the context of a power imbalance and in which the underlings
are not given all information needed to give un coerced consent.

My point is about information control, we can use secrecy or another word:

If a person or group has some information, they would naturally exert control over what and to whom is being disclosed. And it would be their decision to negotiate.

Calling that "power imbalance" is too dramatic. It's quite simply an issue that I know something that you don't.

I can object to somebody being untruthful, but I see no objection to information control.

I guess that I'm saying that information control is the default and limited openness could be negotiated, while you're saying that openness is the default and privacy is to be negotiated.
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