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Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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Cody has been at this for months at various online locations, advocating for Ayahuasca Healings. He claims that merely watching a Trinity video helped heal him of clinical depression. Cody is an apologist for AH.

I've read that phone interviewers are trained to get as much money as possible out of people, even from those who can't afford it. Scholarships aren't free, people have to donate creative work plus be filmed for promotional videos after their experience, while they are still in the after glow.

Trinity claims that he was "called" to do all this, that his visions are special.

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More criticism of Dylan Guss:

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Dylan Guss is a fraud.

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Dylan fooled me for awhile. He pretended to care about me personally but I eventually realized that he was cut from the same cloth as Trinity. They are bad people.

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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Trinity is once again selling retreats in Peru, at the same establishment he worked with prior and has acted as exclusive booking agent all along.

[ayahuascahealings.com]

Dylan Guss is once again the program contact.

Unfortunately they are including a tobacco tea ceremony, such purges can be fatal.

Note that Trinity uses his business name in this marketing in a covert manner:

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1 Year of Integration Coaching & Support
We know the real journey, the real ceremony, starts AFTER your Ayahuasca retreat with us – once you return back to your hometown. Because of this, we provide 1 year of monthly group integration coaching & support, to help you take all of your shifts, epiphanies, and realizations, and ground them into a life-long way of being.

This is the most important part of your transformation, that we are surprised to see no other center offering. It’s not just about what shifts for you at our center, but how you continue to live this in your every day life. So we’re here to help make that implementation, and transition back into your routine life, as easy and powerful as possible for you.

LOVE
The magic ingredient. There is so much love we pour into every word on this page, every intention for this center, and absolutely everything we do for our guests. We have only the highest intentions of healing, awakening, and the deepest transformation for all the things that you want and need in your life, to help you live in Your Highest Truth – no matter what that is.

This love, our highest intentions for you, and this service we pour into everything we do… can be felt, not only through these words you read right now, but from the moment you come to the paradise we are so excited to welcome you to. This love we have for you, for every guest, goes so deep, moves so much, and I truly believe, is the most powerful medicine we have. <3

Welcome, to your family in Peru!

We look so forward to meeting you and serving you in every way we can.

With infinite Love, and then some more,
Trinity de Guzman and The Ayahuasca Healings Family <3

A year of coaching means a year of indoctrination. And he continues to lay it on thick with the love bombing.

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PRICE
$1,450.00 – Price
LOCATION: Peru

PROGRAM CONTACT: Dylan Guss.
EMAIL: support@ayahuascahealings.com.

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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I found this video this morning
[www.youtube.com]

It is funny ...sad and so misguided and as far as enlightenment
as i can imagine anyway .

Trinity last video interviewing a Shapibo shaman should make people think twice
about whohever are the Shapibo ....

One interesting part of this video is at the end where the poor guy says ...he is coming back in a few weeks ...but unfortunately he says the price went up from $3,500 to $5,500 ....but hey he is a good negotiator and got the shaman down to $4,000...He will be back puiking all over the place ...having a few visions and thinking its all very spiritual ,...
And thats what Trinity gang are doing in a more sophisticated way with videos
Paypall ext ...This video shows the great possibilities of this scam
for it is a repeat business...thats gonna be $7,500 that this guy will have given to the Peruvian Shaman ....He is as Gayle point out in the AFTER GLOW period of the AYAHUASKA and easy to manipulate .
We must remember that TRINITY as been trained by HARV EKER and other super american super maketing experts ...I have attended many seminars with Harv ECKER who is worth about $500 millions ...A master scammer
and that the main tecknique ..IS LIKE . Harv will do a process like breaking board karate style ...as an exemple and in the after glow of breaking that board ...he sells you a $2,000
seminars ...and when you get out of that one week seminar...he sells you a $5,000 seminars ...NO MONEY ..NO PROBLEM ...just pile it up on your credit card .
Anyway we can see here how unscupulous people can drain your bank account real fast and make you barought money so you can have these "AMAZING AMAZING EXPERIENCES "

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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What is gonna happen during this upcoming Trinity course is that subjects
will become woven in to a social network full of people like Trinity -- and persons who do not do background research on Trinity and do not take the danger
warnings seriously.

Subjects risk becoming further embedded in a dangerous neighborhood within the
global consciousness seekers scene.

And what if one or more people take Trinity's course and become as grandiose
as he?

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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FROM AYAHUWASKA IS NOT LEGAL ...page

Steven Matthew
April 5 at 4:51pm

Hey, just an update. I *was* able to get my money back via my bank and they are investigating them. I should hear back about their progress/findings within 45 days and will update you then if there's anything of interest. I'd like to thank everyone here for all of the information they've provided.

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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And what if one or more people take Trinity's course and become as grandiose
as he?

Especially likely if combined with ayahuasca. If Trinity were not such an infant, he would know that messianic "calls" very common to happen to people when they first take ayahuasca. That is the other side of the coin of why ayahuasca and cultism are a very dangerous mix. Ayahuasca has the potential to make cultism worse from two sides: first, as mentioned, during the "afterglow" people (at least inexperienced people who don't know better) can be very trusting, gullible, and suggestible. Secondly, it is very common for people who have started drinking ayahuasca to have a sense that they have been "chosen" for some messianic destiny. Usually, that wears off when you realize how common it is and bump into other messiahs. But if you take someone who already has a tendency to grandiosity, it might not wear off. So, ayahuasca can potentially worsen cultism on both sides: on the one hand, ayahuasca can help make cult followers more gullible, and on the other hand, it can potentially encourage cult leaders to be even more grandiose.

Awareness can help people to avoid both traps. But cult leaders don't usually encourage awareness in their followers. Ayahuasca and cultism are a volatile mix.

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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There is yet another contributing factor:

Many people are out there who are attracted to anything that appears or is described as dangerous.

One category might be drawn to ayahuasca rather than MDMA precisely because of the
risk.

So what if ayahuasca has been ripped away from its original custodians? They'll not care about that.

This is my private citizen's opinion: I would refuse to any invitation to use ayahuasca or peyote, because as a non native American, I would consider myself a receiver of stolen goods and morally complicit in theft.

What kinds of spirits would be willing to seek the company of a trespasser like me?

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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[storify.com] A compilation of some of the criticism of Ayahuasca Healings / Your Highest Truth Healings Inc.

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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This is Dylan Guss' response to one of the 18 people who were ripped off:

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Thank you for honestly sharing your thoughts and concerns.

It's actually true that the expenses exceeded the contributions we've received - both Marc and Trinity, the founders of the church, have invested and lost money from their own savings. Although the contributions we've received were not an exchange for services, out of good faith we will be sending everyone their money back if they're not happy with a retreat in Peru or don't want to wait for the response from the DEA.

We're not buying land to build an entirely new center here in Peru, we're renting a center that is already set up. And it's not that expensive in Peru. This will be paid for by those who wish to attend a retreat, and 18 registered guests who have contributed money to our church will be able to attend for free. So we can offer our members to attend an amazing retreat in Peru, or all of their money (including lost to airfare) fully returned, once our funds are stable.

Respectfully, I do not think we're in legal trouble and I do not fear the old energies of law, authority, government. The world is waking up and energetically transforming faster than ever before. I know what's coming, the spirits have shown me - it'll be chaotic at first (just look at the US political drama unfolding) yet incredibly beautiful when the truth is revealed. All forms of pain and suffering shall be healed.

I'm assuming you'd like your contribution back, which I'll make sure will happen as soon as possible. Have you lost money to airfare as well?

Let me know please, thank you!
With love,
Dylan & The ONAC of Ayahuasca Healings Family

My use of bolding above. So Dylan now is also sounding messianic. Not a good sign.

This information is via the Facebook page "Ayahuasca Healings is NOT legal".

Something to think about also: going to any type of remote compound with messianic leaders can be especially dangerous. Whether Lewis County, Washington, USA or Peru - these are remote locations where Trinity and his people can exert more control.

"Old Energies"...?

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old energies of law, authority, government

Hmmm.

Going by that quotation, it appears that Dylan G seems unaware that he would not have clean water to drink were it not for an 'old energy'government agency called
the Department of Water and Power.

Dylan and Trinity and others probably use airplanes
to travel.

Without those 'old energies of law, authority, and government', there would be
no safety regulations for aircraft, no standardized training and testing of pilots and air traffic controllers.

Public roadways are maintained by city, county, state and federal agencies. Ditto for road signs and traffic lights.

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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It's actually true that the expenses exceeded the contributions we've received - both Marc and Trinity, the founders of the church, have invested and lost money from their own savings. Although the contributions we've received were not an exchange for services, out of good faith we will be sending everyone their money back if they're not happy with a retreat in Peru or don't want to wait for the response from the DEA.

So if they've run out of money and lost money of their own, how does he anticipate getting money to pay people back? Obviously, they still have plans to make a bunch of money.

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

Chris Butler is 100% responsible for the death of Sri Shim

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Chris Butler, the delusional, abusive and destructive cult leader is 100% responsible for taking the life of Sri Shim and destroying his beautiful family.

Chris Butler has destroyed hundreds of families over the past 40 years, he has infected the souls of my family members with the sickness of believing in him.

Chris Butler is the only reason that the Cult Boat was ever in the Lanikai waters for the past 15 years. Chris Butler is the only reason that the hundreds of aggressive and completely brainwashed cult members have been shipped in to Kailua from around the globe.

These brainwashed fanatic cult members who end up being allowed to move to Kailua are the most loyal and unquestioning of the thousands of members around the world. Chris Butler has raised most of these Kailua cult members on his teachings since birth.

Chris Butler has imported hundreds of these cult members into Kailua and every one of them follows Chris Butler's orders 24 hours a day.

Every aspect of the aggressive behaviour of these cult members is ordered by Chris Butler and considered pleasing to Chris Butler by these donkeys.

The Cult Boat is driven aggressively on Chris Butler's orders, locals are intimidated on Chris Butler's orders.

These followers, each and every one, have vowed to dedicate their lives to the service of Chris Butler, their "Spiritual Master". A scary title, but a perfect description of the way in which they consider Chris their master, their living God. This is the man who is a master of their spirits, a man who they believe holds a perfect understanding of the metaphysical spiritual realms, a man who knows the true mind and will of God, a man these followers believe is perfectly in sync with God himself.

Chris Butler is 100% responsible for the death of Sri Shim, wether this was the unintentional outcome of the extremely dangerous behaviour that Chris Butler's loyal disciples like Sai Hansen had been instructed by their master to conduct.

Perhaps the death of Sri Shim was murder of the second degree, where Sai Hansen was aware that Sri and Trey were in the water. the boat driver intended to intimidate the divers by racing the deadly boat in their direction, a deluded cult member thinking he was pleasing his Spiritual Master and God himself by racing his master's holy boat in the direction of the demons.

The death of Sri Shim may have been cold blooded first degree murder. Ordered by Chris Butler himself, carried out by a delusional cult member who believed this heinous crime was condoned by God almighty. None of this is out of the realm of possibility. Chris Butler and his gang of thugs, criminals, deluded sycophants and fawning disciples are capable of much destruction.

This is a criminal and corrupt Mafia with no oversight, total compartmentalization, zero transparency and complete authority bestowed upon a delusional man with a messianic complex and a cult of personality worshipping his existence, drinking his footbath water, eating his rotten leftovers and even ingesting his toenails.

This man is 100% to blame for the death of Sri Shim.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9CDRcY-TJto

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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Here is another case of a guy with similar ideas as TNT ...it was news on CNN today ....and a letter by academics was join to the article

[www.ayahuasca.com]

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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Here is in a nutshell what skolars and PHDs have said about Mr Verela
in the article that I have posted above .

"We denounce the commercialization of Yajé(AYAHUASKA ) as if it were an ordinary product or service, generating an artificial demand based on crass manipulation of what it means to consume the Yajé medicine, and taking advantage of the ignorance, credulity, good faith, and vulnerability of many people"

For me that resume the whole TNT story
Here we have GUZMAN making videos after videos stating stuff like
"TRINITY GUZMAN HERE ...I JUST HAD ANOTHER AMAZING ...AMAZING MOTHER AYAWASCA EXPERIENCE ...SMILING AND SOUNDING ECSTATIC....AND TELLING HIS LISTENERS THAT HE IS NOW MAKING IT EASY FOR ALL PEOPLE IN AMERICA TO HAVE THESES EXPERIENCES
LEGALLY IN THE USA ...(TOTAL LIES AND DECEITS )
And for regular folks that never experience more than smoking pot
it sound like they will soon experience NIRVANA ...and that what it means
that an expert in marketing trained by the like of Harv Eker ...and Tony Robbins (because Harv Eker is a disciple of Tony Robbin)
can take advantage of the ignorance,credulity ,good faith ,and vulnerability of many people . He as already did take their money for ceremonies that was to happem in the USA ....now its come down to PERU ...to do ceremonies in the jungle with us .....FREAKING DANGEROUS ....if any thing goes wrong there ...YOU CANNOT CALL 911

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity

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Rama Ranson wrote of Chris Butler and the SCIENCE of IDENTITY


This is a criminal and corrupt Mafia (like organization) with no oversight, total compartmentalization, zero transparency and complete authority bestowed upon a delusional man with a messianic complex and a cult of personality worshipping his existence, drinking his footbath water, eating his rotten leftovers and even ingesting his toenails.( like a holy Communion for the Catholique .)

Thats one of the best description in a nutshell of Chris Butler organization

Actually Mike Gabbard does both ...this freaking hypocrite does go to the Catholique church and eat the flat waffle (body of Christ ) and in private eats the toe nails of his guru Chris Butler .
Its frightening to think that a mad man could have that much influence
on a group ...and have been able to put one of his puppet in the congress of the USA ...looks like only his death ...or a major scandal now will be the big deprogrammer of all those blind followers .

Re: Trinity de Guzman - Ayahuasca Healings (WA, USA)

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Dabcult, I agree with you, this is very dangerous. Christopher "Trinity" de Guzman, Dylan Guss, Mark Roland Shackman a.k.a Kumooja Banyan Tree are proven to be not trustworthy.

To go to an isolated location with them amplifies the possible danger.

Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity

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Rama is dead on correct.

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Every aspect of the aggressive behaviour of these cult members is ordered by Chris Butler and considered pleasing to Chris Butler by these donkeys.

The Cult Boat is driven aggressively on Chris Butler's orders, locals are intimidated on Chris Butler's orders.

These followers, each and every one, have vowed to dedicate their lives to the service of Chris Butler, their "Spiritual Master". A scary title, but a perfect description of the way in which they consider Chris their master, their living God. This is the man who is a master of their spirits, a man who they believe holds a perfect understanding of the metaphysical spiritual realms, a man who knows the true mind and will of God, a man these followers believe is perfectly in sync with God himself.

Chris Butler is 100% responsible for the death of Sri Shim, wether this was the unintentional outcome of the extremely dangerous behaviour that Chris Butler's loyal disciples like Sai Hansen had been instructed by their master to conduct.

Perhaps the death of Sri Shim was murder of the second degree, where Sai Hansen was aware that Sri and Trey were in the water. the boat driver intended to intimidate the divers by racing the deadly boat in their direction, a deluded cult member thinking he was pleasing his Spiritual Master and God himself by racing his master's holy boat in the direction of the demons.

The death of Sri Shim may have been cold blooded first degree murder. Ordered by Chris Butler himself, carried out by a delusional cult member who believed this heinous crime was condoned by God almighty. None of this is out of the realm of possibility. Chris Butler and his gang of thugs, criminals, deluded sycophants and fawning disciples are capable of much destruction.

This is a criminal and corrupt Mafia with no oversight, total compartmentalization, zero transparency and complete authority bestowed upon a delusional man with a messianic complex and a cult of personality worshipping his existence, drinking his footbath water, eating his rotten leftovers and even ingesting his toenails.

This man is 100% to blame for the death of Sri Shim."

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Might I add, did Sai really drive that boat? Persistent conversations especially by those who are very familiar with the characters involved (including an insane leader) are stating and asking; was Sai really the driver?

The authorities need to have broader conversations with extended cult family members to get to the truth.
It is there in plain sight and a different country down south.... just sayin’. Go back and take a good hard listen to that 911 call.
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