I've read a lot of comments on this thread and thought I would give my opinion. My opinion is my own, and I'm not here to defend or attack anybody. Simply to tell the truth as I see it.
Just so you know where I'm coming from, I've followed Mooji's teachings for over 10 years on and off, so I witnessed him speak to a half empty room to forming Monte Sahaja and becoming a spiritual superstar. I have never lived at Monte Sahaja, although I stayed there for a few weeks.
First things first, let's address the sexual abuse claims. As far as I'm aware Mooji has had several girlfriends throughout the years, and was faithful to them. He never claimed to be a monk, and already had children by the time he was awakened. Anyway his girlfriends were always known. They were proper relationships. It wasn't a different 'girlfriend' every week or so. No, they were relationships that spanned several years until they broke up naturally.
I have NEVER heard of Mooji sleeping with female followers, or grooming them in any kind of way. And I've been around long enough, and have enough close insider information to know if anything like that cropped up. So until evidence is shown, I will regard claims of sexual abuse as slander.
It's true that there are many young european women around, but they come of their own choosing. Throughout the years I have also noticed Mooji almost never shows preference to females over males. This is evident in satsang, you don't need my word for it.
Somebody claiming to live in Monte Sahaja said that Mooji monitors their sex lives. Well I don't live there so I have no idea if that's true. But I stayed there for a while and I'm friends with people who live/lived there. So I can offer a little insight. People trust Mooji a lot, and tell him things about themselves. When you live in such a small commune it's difficult to keep secrets, especially a relationship. And his disciples often go to Mooji asking for his blessing or advice regarding a relationship. I have no idea what is said in these little consultations, but I believe Mooji expresses his opinion on whether they should be together. I don't think he banishes people if he believes they don't work as a couple. So that's more how it works. Insinuating he has spies checking who is sleeping with who is absurd, and like I said he wouldn't need to because people talk to him willingly.
As far as I know, the only reason he would not approve of a relationship is if he felt it distracted you from your satsang/spiritual work. Some people get into relationships then start arguing, or their emotions flair, they might miss satsang, they can't focus because they're thinking about their partner. Mooji always expresses that the best relationships are those where you can be in satsang/worship God together. You may not agree, but it's a reasonable viewpoint.
Now let me offer you an example. Some of you may remember a young woman named Samadhi. She was very beautiful, and had a lovely spirit. In videos from 2 years ago Samadhi can be seen sitting next to Krisnabai a lot, they looked like sisters. She was also extremely close to Mooji. So close that they would have private one to one Skypes when she wasn't around. he treated her like a daughter, and I know she loved him like a Father. This song doesn't really do her voice or songwriting skills better. [www.youtube.com]
From what I know she was messing around with a married man at Monte Sahaja, who had a wife and kids back home. When Mooji got wind of this he told her in no uncertain terms that she is to end the relationship because it's not healthy to be in this drama breaking up a happy home. And this was very distracting for her spiritually.
Samadhi had to make a decision, and in the middle of the night she left with her lover. She has since cut all contact from the Sangha and Mooji. Now Mooji never banished her, he simply gave his opinion on their relationship. She chose to cut dies and requested nobody contact her after she left. I would not call this interfering in peoples sex lives. But I can see how it might look like that.
Many people seem to think that Krishnabi is Mooji's girlfriend or something. I can tell you that they are not together. Of course if they had a secret relationship I would not know. But again I'm privy to insider info, and I'm told that's not the case. Now I have heard that Krishnabi at one point was in love with Mooji, or still is. But Mooji publicly announced his celibacy soon after breaking up with his Brazillian girlfriend, and it doesn't seem like he plans to break it. When he announced this during satsang, Krishnabi can be seen crying. So I think he views her as his devoted disciple. Maybe she views him as more than a spiritual teacher, but we'll never know. I also heard she got into a physical fight with his Brazillian girlfriend, which possibly played a part in her leaving. I just know that she's always very happy whenever I meet her.
Now the sex stuff is out of the way, let's talk Mooji worship. Does Mooji see himself as a God? I have no idea. But does Mooji allow others to worship him as a God. Possibly yes.
This one is tricky. In the old days, before he was huge, things were much more simply. People didn't go around wearing white, feet kissing was rare, his picture wasn't everywhere. What's changed? I can't say for certain but I feel this is more due to the nature of people around him.
First we need to look at Mooji's character. I feel that he takes a very lax approach to things, he just allows things to happen around him. This is evident even before he was a master. People used to go to his house to smoke, drink and do whatever. He kind of fell into his teaching job. And now as a master he kind of takes the same approach to life. I don't think it's necessarily bad, but I don't think it's a good trait to have either.
If you walked into a persons house and saw pictures of themselves everywhere, even in the bathroom, you would assume they were extremely vain. But be under no illusion, displaying Mooji's picture everywhere is NOT his idea. His followers love to see his picture, and he allows them to. Honestly in my opinion it's a bit much having his photo everywhere, but I'm not a decision maker.
I know of a little story in Monte Sahaja. A guy showed up a while ago and questioned Mooji to his face as to why his picture was up everywhere. Mooji replied that his followers displayed his picture, but he doesn't care either way. In fact Mooji told the guy that if it bothered him so much he could take down the picture(in this instance it was one near the satsang hall/temple in Monte Sahaja). The next day the Mooji's picture from the hall went missing. Nobody saw the guy take it, but he was under suspicion. Of course Mooji didn't say anything, and the picture remained down for a number of days. The women in Mooji's inner circle soon got together and decided to put up another picture of Mooji in the satsang hall, and made a big ceremony of it. So this goes to show that it's his followers who want his photo displayed everywhere.
Even this thing of silence or not speaking too loudly is encouraged by his people, and not Mooji. Anybody who knows Mooji outside of satsang can tell you how he likes to joke and be loud.
I think that Mooji needs to rein his people in a little and stop allowing them to control how things are run. I also think he should be a little more firm in telling people not to touch his feet or stand when he enters the room(which only started about 3 or 4 years ago). He allows them to worship him because it gives them pleasure. But he should know it only furthers confusion.
Let's address the allegation that he shouts at people. Personally I have never heard him shout at people. I have heard from someone in the inner circle if he's rushing for time he can shout, but it didn't seem to be out of meanness or a frequent habit. Just sometimes you shout to get things done quickly. But that's second hand information, in reality I don't know. I can just say if he does shout it's very rare. And I've been around him many times away from the camera over the years.
Why hasn't Mooji been in India? Again I have no idea, some people mention tax issues, Mooji's team has said he is too tired and needs rest. I won't repeat what I've heard in detail, but I have it from another source that some people in India are EXTREMELY unhappy with Mooji, and it would be safer for him not to travel there. The reasons for their unhappiness are a mystery to me, but they mean business. Until that issue gets resolved, I doubt we'll see Mooji in India anytime soon. FYI all the satsangs in India were free entry for the entire retreat, it's been that way for years. So I doubt it's a tax issue.
I was not around when that man committed suicide in Monte Sahaja, and never asked for details. Therefore I can't comment. What I I can say however is that Mooji's teachings attract many people who suffer from mental illness. These people would be better off taking some medication, and working on their self esteem in more conventional ways rather than visiting Monte Sahaja. I don't think Mooji makes people unwell, but if you are suffering from depression or mental illness sometimes it can exasperate your condition if you are not careful. I know of 2 people personally who were asked to leave Monte Sahaja because they started acting a bit wild over there. Both had a history of mental illness before ever going, I just think the place triggered them.
I could write so much but this would be way too long. So I will address one last point.
As for whether he employs hypnosis techniques, I can't say. Someone alleged people are told to reply in unison in advance. I can tell you that's false, as I've sat in the crowd in multiple countries hearing the invitation, and people give genuine answers at the same time. I suppose it's a kind of trance or hypnosis. It's entire aim is to lower your minds state, so you can feel that peaceful feeling. But he makes it quite clear that's what his aim is. So not sure how he's being deceptive here.
I will agree that listening to the invitation by itself won't make you free. Sometimes satsang is like a drug, you keep having to go back for another hit. Me and a long term friend remarked the other day how we were one of the guys from the early days left. All of the others have vanished. It's very sad, and makes me feel something is missing from the teaching. I don't believe Mooji should deny peoples persons or reality altogether. Sure ultimately we are God, but relatively we still need to eat, we still need relationships, we need shelter. So he needs to address that. This is why so many people have breakdowns once they leave Monte Sahaja. Because up there they are living in a bubble, you simply follow a routine and everything else is taken care of. When you go back home your relationships may have suffered, you realise it probably wasn't wise to have thrown your career away, you have no support. It's very difficult. And that satsang high you once had is now faded. Telling yourself that reality is a dream doesn't quite work when reality slaps you in the first and you're looking for a place to sleep. I still believe Mooji is a great person and has a lot of deep wisdom. He has helped me in my life tremendously. But you should understand that his teachings are not the be all and end all. You can't run away from life listening to Mooji. And enlightenment after watching one video is a joke. Millions of youtube views later I haven't heard this to be true. Please take of yourselves, and don't get caught up in trying not to be a person. Just do the best that you can while having an open and clean heart. Because I'll let you know many of the people staying in Monte Sahaja are no closer to the truth than you are.
Just so you know where I'm coming from, I've followed Mooji's teachings for over 10 years on and off, so I witnessed him speak to a half empty room to forming Monte Sahaja and becoming a spiritual superstar. I have never lived at Monte Sahaja, although I stayed there for a few weeks.
First things first, let's address the sexual abuse claims. As far as I'm aware Mooji has had several girlfriends throughout the years, and was faithful to them. He never claimed to be a monk, and already had children by the time he was awakened. Anyway his girlfriends were always known. They were proper relationships. It wasn't a different 'girlfriend' every week or so. No, they were relationships that spanned several years until they broke up naturally.
I have NEVER heard of Mooji sleeping with female followers, or grooming them in any kind of way. And I've been around long enough, and have enough close insider information to know if anything like that cropped up. So until evidence is shown, I will regard claims of sexual abuse as slander.
It's true that there are many young european women around, but they come of their own choosing. Throughout the years I have also noticed Mooji almost never shows preference to females over males. This is evident in satsang, you don't need my word for it.
Somebody claiming to live in Monte Sahaja said that Mooji monitors their sex lives. Well I don't live there so I have no idea if that's true. But I stayed there for a while and I'm friends with people who live/lived there. So I can offer a little insight. People trust Mooji a lot, and tell him things about themselves. When you live in such a small commune it's difficult to keep secrets, especially a relationship. And his disciples often go to Mooji asking for his blessing or advice regarding a relationship. I have no idea what is said in these little consultations, but I believe Mooji expresses his opinion on whether they should be together. I don't think he banishes people if he believes they don't work as a couple. So that's more how it works. Insinuating he has spies checking who is sleeping with who is absurd, and like I said he wouldn't need to because people talk to him willingly.
As far as I know, the only reason he would not approve of a relationship is if he felt it distracted you from your satsang/spiritual work. Some people get into relationships then start arguing, or their emotions flair, they might miss satsang, they can't focus because they're thinking about their partner. Mooji always expresses that the best relationships are those where you can be in satsang/worship God together. You may not agree, but it's a reasonable viewpoint.
Now let me offer you an example. Some of you may remember a young woman named Samadhi. She was very beautiful, and had a lovely spirit. In videos from 2 years ago Samadhi can be seen sitting next to Krisnabai a lot, they looked like sisters. She was also extremely close to Mooji. So close that they would have private one to one Skypes when she wasn't around. he treated her like a daughter, and I know she loved him like a Father. This song doesn't really do her voice or songwriting skills better. [www.youtube.com]
From what I know she was messing around with a married man at Monte Sahaja, who had a wife and kids back home. When Mooji got wind of this he told her in no uncertain terms that she is to end the relationship because it's not healthy to be in this drama breaking up a happy home. And this was very distracting for her spiritually.
Samadhi had to make a decision, and in the middle of the night she left with her lover. She has since cut all contact from the Sangha and Mooji. Now Mooji never banished her, he simply gave his opinion on their relationship. She chose to cut dies and requested nobody contact her after she left. I would not call this interfering in peoples sex lives. But I can see how it might look like that.
Many people seem to think that Krishnabi is Mooji's girlfriend or something. I can tell you that they are not together. Of course if they had a secret relationship I would not know. But again I'm privy to insider info, and I'm told that's not the case. Now I have heard that Krishnabi at one point was in love with Mooji, or still is. But Mooji publicly announced his celibacy soon after breaking up with his Brazillian girlfriend, and it doesn't seem like he plans to break it. When he announced this during satsang, Krishnabi can be seen crying. So I think he views her as his devoted disciple. Maybe she views him as more than a spiritual teacher, but we'll never know. I also heard she got into a physical fight with his Brazillian girlfriend, which possibly played a part in her leaving. I just know that she's always very happy whenever I meet her.
Now the sex stuff is out of the way, let's talk Mooji worship. Does Mooji see himself as a God? I have no idea. But does Mooji allow others to worship him as a God. Possibly yes.
This one is tricky. In the old days, before he was huge, things were much more simply. People didn't go around wearing white, feet kissing was rare, his picture wasn't everywhere. What's changed? I can't say for certain but I feel this is more due to the nature of people around him.
First we need to look at Mooji's character. I feel that he takes a very lax approach to things, he just allows things to happen around him. This is evident even before he was a master. People used to go to his house to smoke, drink and do whatever. He kind of fell into his teaching job. And now as a master he kind of takes the same approach to life. I don't think it's necessarily bad, but I don't think it's a good trait to have either.
If you walked into a persons house and saw pictures of themselves everywhere, even in the bathroom, you would assume they were extremely vain. But be under no illusion, displaying Mooji's picture everywhere is NOT his idea. His followers love to see his picture, and he allows them to. Honestly in my opinion it's a bit much having his photo everywhere, but I'm not a decision maker.
I know of a little story in Monte Sahaja. A guy showed up a while ago and questioned Mooji to his face as to why his picture was up everywhere. Mooji replied that his followers displayed his picture, but he doesn't care either way. In fact Mooji told the guy that if it bothered him so much he could take down the picture(in this instance it was one near the satsang hall/temple in Monte Sahaja). The next day the Mooji's picture from the hall went missing. Nobody saw the guy take it, but he was under suspicion. Of course Mooji didn't say anything, and the picture remained down for a number of days. The women in Mooji's inner circle soon got together and decided to put up another picture of Mooji in the satsang hall, and made a big ceremony of it. So this goes to show that it's his followers who want his photo displayed everywhere.
Even this thing of silence or not speaking too loudly is encouraged by his people, and not Mooji. Anybody who knows Mooji outside of satsang can tell you how he likes to joke and be loud.
I think that Mooji needs to rein his people in a little and stop allowing them to control how things are run. I also think he should be a little more firm in telling people not to touch his feet or stand when he enters the room(which only started about 3 or 4 years ago). He allows them to worship him because it gives them pleasure. But he should know it only furthers confusion.
Let's address the allegation that he shouts at people. Personally I have never heard him shout at people. I have heard from someone in the inner circle if he's rushing for time he can shout, but it didn't seem to be out of meanness or a frequent habit. Just sometimes you shout to get things done quickly. But that's second hand information, in reality I don't know. I can just say if he does shout it's very rare. And I've been around him many times away from the camera over the years.
Why hasn't Mooji been in India? Again I have no idea, some people mention tax issues, Mooji's team has said he is too tired and needs rest. I won't repeat what I've heard in detail, but I have it from another source that some people in India are EXTREMELY unhappy with Mooji, and it would be safer for him not to travel there. The reasons for their unhappiness are a mystery to me, but they mean business. Until that issue gets resolved, I doubt we'll see Mooji in India anytime soon. FYI all the satsangs in India were free entry for the entire retreat, it's been that way for years. So I doubt it's a tax issue.
I was not around when that man committed suicide in Monte Sahaja, and never asked for details. Therefore I can't comment. What I I can say however is that Mooji's teachings attract many people who suffer from mental illness. These people would be better off taking some medication, and working on their self esteem in more conventional ways rather than visiting Monte Sahaja. I don't think Mooji makes people unwell, but if you are suffering from depression or mental illness sometimes it can exasperate your condition if you are not careful. I know of 2 people personally who were asked to leave Monte Sahaja because they started acting a bit wild over there. Both had a history of mental illness before ever going, I just think the place triggered them.
I could write so much but this would be way too long. So I will address one last point.
As for whether he employs hypnosis techniques, I can't say. Someone alleged people are told to reply in unison in advance. I can tell you that's false, as I've sat in the crowd in multiple countries hearing the invitation, and people give genuine answers at the same time. I suppose it's a kind of trance or hypnosis. It's entire aim is to lower your minds state, so you can feel that peaceful feeling. But he makes it quite clear that's what his aim is. So not sure how he's being deceptive here.
I will agree that listening to the invitation by itself won't make you free. Sometimes satsang is like a drug, you keep having to go back for another hit. Me and a long term friend remarked the other day how we were one of the guys from the early days left. All of the others have vanished. It's very sad, and makes me feel something is missing from the teaching. I don't believe Mooji should deny peoples persons or reality altogether. Sure ultimately we are God, but relatively we still need to eat, we still need relationships, we need shelter. So he needs to address that. This is why so many people have breakdowns once they leave Monte Sahaja. Because up there they are living in a bubble, you simply follow a routine and everything else is taken care of. When you go back home your relationships may have suffered, you realise it probably wasn't wise to have thrown your career away, you have no support. It's very difficult. And that satsang high you once had is now faded. Telling yourself that reality is a dream doesn't quite work when reality slaps you in the first and you're looking for a place to sleep. I still believe Mooji is a great person and has a lot of deep wisdom. He has helped me in my life tremendously. But you should understand that his teachings are not the be all and end all. You can't run away from life listening to Mooji. And enlightenment after watching one video is a joke. Millions of youtube views later I haven't heard this to be true. Please take of yourselves, and don't get caught up in trying not to be a person. Just do the best that you can while having an open and clean heart. Because I'll let you know many of the people staying in Monte Sahaja are no closer to the truth than you are.