In the sampradaya, such sexual language is not permitted. He would never have been taught that under Swami Dayananda. No disciple of Swami Dayananda speaks to a student like that.
In tradtional vedanta, teachers are taught to use language in a certain way. It is an oral tradition. So there is a tonality used. The actual words used are very important also. I have never came across a teacher of tradtional vedanta that would use such language.
That language would most certainly be offensive to any number of people. A vedanta teacher has to mantain a degree of almost professionalism.
Oh, in the link I shared earlier, Isabella has said that James is a professional, even though does not do this as a profession. The language used here is hardly professional.
Speaking of Isabella not saying this is a profession for him.
Isabella and James, and indeed the Shiningworld inner circle. You will know this.
When you were so quick to ostracise one of your students for asking for medical expenses, you did have the requirement that a teacher had to have an individual means of income. For you, it was easy to then say and i quote;
"You are NOT to SOLICIT donations."
However, Isabella, being the shining example of an enlightened person that she is, vis a vis, shanti, She put an end to James' little business in the USA.
James and Isabella had been staying somewhere for many years, at the hospitality of the owners. They were teaching from there. James also had a side-business. Which made some decent money.
Isabella does what she does best, and started a whole load of trouble over nothing with the property owners. So they were both told to go. James actually went crazy with Isabella, in front of students. Remember JS & IS?
It was amazing. So, James lost his income out of that.
Now we see that they are no longer bother about soliciting for money. As they have took a financial hit.
They got a huge lump some from someone for the Spanish place. And I said to former members, wait to you see what happens. This person will be used and burned.
And that is what has happened. I won't go into the exact details here yet.
Use and abuse.
It is fine for you to change the rules, as long as it suits you. Extorting money out of people. Threatening to withhold teachings unless they give you cash for your spanish love nest in the hills.
This spiritual profession, it ain't a bad racket after all, eh? You guys 'retiring to the spanish hills. Off the back of poor unknowing people that are suffering.
P.S. Brilliant posts guys. I am sorry to post so soon myself. I have just been doing this is a work break lol.
A very astute point in Trav's post...
James Swartz seem's to not like kama and prema that much. That is, romantic/sexual love, and emotional love (such as parental). While he himself can indulge with his students sexually. He often talks this down. And as a member of the inner circle I can validate this is the way it is. I'm leading to something here...
...He does indeed leave the heart of out what he teaches. And he sells Ramana stuff. He should at least have assimilated some things.
Initially it looks like Shankara is drop dead cold in what he taught. That Advaita is a cold wasteland. This is not true. One of the last teachings Shankara taught was Bhaja Govindam. Which is about Bhakti. And Although James Swartz teaches Narada Bhakti Sutra, it is only lip service.
I know of lineages that teach advaita vedanta, and absolutely regard bhakti, actual bhakti, advaita bhakti, as enlightenment. This is not different from jnanam, knowledge. In fact, knowledge is assimilated in the buddhi, intellect. Which is metaphorically, loosely taught is in the heart 'area'. While not strictly physically true, the reason this is taught is very important.
It supports completely what Trav posted. There is no fun, without the bhakti element. But there can be lots of by-passing with the Shiningworld way.
Lastly, in the tradition, vedanta teachers are taught to be compassionate to people as they can sensitive. There is never trying to give them tough love, or deliberately saying things that might provoke or hurt. A vedanta teacher is to be polite and courteous at all times. Both James and Isabella Swartz will try to destroy whoever opposes them.
In tradtional vedanta, teachers are taught to use language in a certain way. It is an oral tradition. So there is a tonality used. The actual words used are very important also. I have never came across a teacher of tradtional vedanta that would use such language.
That language would most certainly be offensive to any number of people. A vedanta teacher has to mantain a degree of almost professionalism.
Oh, in the link I shared earlier, Isabella has said that James is a professional, even though does not do this as a profession. The language used here is hardly professional.
Speaking of Isabella not saying this is a profession for him.
Isabella and James, and indeed the Shiningworld inner circle. You will know this.
When you were so quick to ostracise one of your students for asking for medical expenses, you did have the requirement that a teacher had to have an individual means of income. For you, it was easy to then say and i quote;
"You are NOT to SOLICIT donations."
However, Isabella, being the shining example of an enlightened person that she is, vis a vis, shanti, She put an end to James' little business in the USA.
James and Isabella had been staying somewhere for many years, at the hospitality of the owners. They were teaching from there. James also had a side-business. Which made some decent money.
Isabella does what she does best, and started a whole load of trouble over nothing with the property owners. So they were both told to go. James actually went crazy with Isabella, in front of students. Remember JS & IS?
It was amazing. So, James lost his income out of that.
Now we see that they are no longer bother about soliciting for money. As they have took a financial hit.
They got a huge lump some from someone for the Spanish place. And I said to former members, wait to you see what happens. This person will be used and burned.
And that is what has happened. I won't go into the exact details here yet.
Use and abuse.
It is fine for you to change the rules, as long as it suits you. Extorting money out of people. Threatening to withhold teachings unless they give you cash for your spanish love nest in the hills.
This spiritual profession, it ain't a bad racket after all, eh? You guys 'retiring to the spanish hills. Off the back of poor unknowing people that are suffering.
P.S. Brilliant posts guys. I am sorry to post so soon myself. I have just been doing this is a work break lol.
A very astute point in Trav's post...
James Swartz seem's to not like kama and prema that much. That is, romantic/sexual love, and emotional love (such as parental). While he himself can indulge with his students sexually. He often talks this down. And as a member of the inner circle I can validate this is the way it is. I'm leading to something here...
...He does indeed leave the heart of out what he teaches. And he sells Ramana stuff. He should at least have assimilated some things.
Initially it looks like Shankara is drop dead cold in what he taught. That Advaita is a cold wasteland. This is not true. One of the last teachings Shankara taught was Bhaja Govindam. Which is about Bhakti. And Although James Swartz teaches Narada Bhakti Sutra, it is only lip service.
I know of lineages that teach advaita vedanta, and absolutely regard bhakti, actual bhakti, advaita bhakti, as enlightenment. This is not different from jnanam, knowledge. In fact, knowledge is assimilated in the buddhi, intellect. Which is metaphorically, loosely taught is in the heart 'area'. While not strictly physically true, the reason this is taught is very important.
It supports completely what Trav posted. There is no fun, without the bhakti element. But there can be lots of by-passing with the Shiningworld way.
Lastly, in the tradition, vedanta teachers are taught to be compassionate to people as they can sensitive. There is never trying to give them tough love, or deliberately saying things that might provoke or hurt. A vedanta teacher is to be polite and courteous at all times. Both James and Isabella Swartz will try to destroy whoever opposes them.