Shiningworld seem to be taking some notice of our critique. Their failure to lead students out of samsara, even though they publicly laud these so called enlightened people in their fictional e-satsangs, has created much suffering.
A poster-child for this is Sattva. This person it seems is proud of the fact they are 'free', for they repeat it a lot. And they are told they are enlightened. Often publicly.
I was also in the same situation as sattva. Exactly. And also were many others.
For an actual enlightened person, they never want to, nor need to advertise this. And enlightenment is not big deal, to the enlightened person.
Being free also means being free of the teacher. There is no need to 'defend' the teacher. And certainly there is no irrationality.
Now Shiningworld are advertising this year 'The Complete Teaching'. Nice marketing hyperbole. I ask you James, why are you feeling the need now to take students back over stuff you should have actually been doing years ago?
You said it yourself in the event advertisement, that self-realised individuals find bliss obscured. Well, I am asking you, what use is your 'self-realisation' then? This is still samsara.
Enlightenment is enlightenment. You have placed these confusing grades in things, and I am telling you straight a high percentage of Shiningworld student have not got a clue what these gradations are.
It is just another ploy to keep people in samsara. You award them enlightenment, and then they are still suffering, and you murky the waters why. They go about thinking they are enlightened, sattva is an example. But sattva is great. Sattva is so full of ego, they accuse victims of abuse when sattva was not there to know this. Sattva is not free. Not free from the controller-ship of the teacher. This blind devotion is cult territory.
In any event, we have been saying here for a year now how Shiningworld are not teaching properly. How their students are left suffering. And while we understand THAT message is getting home, by virtue of the timing, here is something you will resist to the death...
It does NOT matter what new material you re-package. You have not completed your own learning all those years ago. You were forced out of two ashrams. It is obvious that you can only have learned from books.
Here is something important...
In the Swami tradition, the training is many years. The swami's that are called 'Chaitanya' retain a guru. The Swami's that are called 'ananda' have no guru. They are free. Are you really trying to imply that you once you had to leave Chinmaya mission, and Swami Dayananda did not want you, that after those little two years, you did not need a guru? You were equated with an ananda Swami?
I know you have claimed you kept in contact with Swami Chinmaynanda. I also know you are clever. Like you said the other day, Swami Dayananda was your teacher. Though only for two weeks really. So, prove that you have a teacher-student relationship with Swami Chinmayananda for the rest of his time.
Also, I am callng you out again. If you really were a student of Swami Dayananda, you would be his disciple. If you were is disciple/student, you woudl NOT call him Swami Dayananda. You would refer to him as Pujya Swamiji! You are caught out again. In that lineage, his student refer to him as Pujya Swamiji.
Isabella. You made a satsang today in regard to nididyasanam. I have made it know here before that you have taught wrong in regard to it never ending. As i said before it was agreed by two Swami. I see today you have posted something which is more in line, with the way it should be. You are also listening to the critique here.
The patterns are noticeable. You changed that abuse satsang to Tom the other day. You are having to take care in what you say now.
You are now realising current teachings have not been effective, so you see the need to give a 'complete' teaching on top, for these already 'self-realised' souls.
And you, Isabella, you are righting, previous wrong teachings that have been highlighted here.
I know the both of you have known what I have been talking about here. It doesnt matter what you say to your students. Your circle. You will save face. Though I am telling the truth. You both know what I have been saying from the start here.
If you keep these wrong teachings in place, it will be highlighted. If you change the teachings due to what we have been saying, it will also be highlighted.
It does not matter what you publicly claim. We are having an effect or you would not be trying to address things we are highlighting to the world.
A poster-child for this is Sattva. This person it seems is proud of the fact they are 'free', for they repeat it a lot. And they are told they are enlightened. Often publicly.
I was also in the same situation as sattva. Exactly. And also were many others.
For an actual enlightened person, they never want to, nor need to advertise this. And enlightenment is not big deal, to the enlightened person.
Being free also means being free of the teacher. There is no need to 'defend' the teacher. And certainly there is no irrationality.
Now Shiningworld are advertising this year 'The Complete Teaching'. Nice marketing hyperbole. I ask you James, why are you feeling the need now to take students back over stuff you should have actually been doing years ago?
You said it yourself in the event advertisement, that self-realised individuals find bliss obscured. Well, I am asking you, what use is your 'self-realisation' then? This is still samsara.
Enlightenment is enlightenment. You have placed these confusing grades in things, and I am telling you straight a high percentage of Shiningworld student have not got a clue what these gradations are.
It is just another ploy to keep people in samsara. You award them enlightenment, and then they are still suffering, and you murky the waters why. They go about thinking they are enlightened, sattva is an example. But sattva is great. Sattva is so full of ego, they accuse victims of abuse when sattva was not there to know this. Sattva is not free. Not free from the controller-ship of the teacher. This blind devotion is cult territory.
In any event, we have been saying here for a year now how Shiningworld are not teaching properly. How their students are left suffering. And while we understand THAT message is getting home, by virtue of the timing, here is something you will resist to the death...
It does NOT matter what new material you re-package. You have not completed your own learning all those years ago. You were forced out of two ashrams. It is obvious that you can only have learned from books.
Here is something important...
In the Swami tradition, the training is many years. The swami's that are called 'Chaitanya' retain a guru. The Swami's that are called 'ananda' have no guru. They are free. Are you really trying to imply that you once you had to leave Chinmaya mission, and Swami Dayananda did not want you, that after those little two years, you did not need a guru? You were equated with an ananda Swami?
I know you have claimed you kept in contact with Swami Chinmaynanda. I also know you are clever. Like you said the other day, Swami Dayananda was your teacher. Though only for two weeks really. So, prove that you have a teacher-student relationship with Swami Chinmayananda for the rest of his time.
Also, I am callng you out again. If you really were a student of Swami Dayananda, you would be his disciple. If you were is disciple/student, you woudl NOT call him Swami Dayananda. You would refer to him as Pujya Swamiji! You are caught out again. In that lineage, his student refer to him as Pujya Swamiji.
Isabella. You made a satsang today in regard to nididyasanam. I have made it know here before that you have taught wrong in regard to it never ending. As i said before it was agreed by two Swami. I see today you have posted something which is more in line, with the way it should be. You are also listening to the critique here.
The patterns are noticeable. You changed that abuse satsang to Tom the other day. You are having to take care in what you say now.
You are now realising current teachings have not been effective, so you see the need to give a 'complete' teaching on top, for these already 'self-realised' souls.
And you, Isabella, you are righting, previous wrong teachings that have been highlighted here.
I know the both of you have known what I have been talking about here. It doesnt matter what you say to your students. Your circle. You will save face. Though I am telling the truth. You both know what I have been saying from the start here.
If you keep these wrong teachings in place, it will be highlighted. If you change the teachings due to what we have been saying, it will also be highlighted.
It does not matter what you publicly claim. We are having an effect or you would not be trying to address things we are highlighting to the world.