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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity

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If any of these devotees is subpoenaed to give testimony under oath, the officers of the law had better be aware that a devotee's "God" is not the same as "God"
as most of us understand "God".

It is possible that in this situation, the word "God" may, through lack of precision, include two understandings of God -- GodA and GodK

GodA: the God most of us have in mind when we raise our hands and swear the oath to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help us God.

GodA expects us to stand by our word, even if this means risking our lives and friendships.

GodA is the one we have in mind when we read in Exodus 23, "Thou must not follow a multitude to do evil." When all your social ties tell you to do harm, GodA gives a greater perspective.

GodA is the God of the Founding Fathers, GodA who plays fair and expects us to play fair as well.

The GodA of a truth that means the same thing yesterday, today and tomorrow.

The GodA of justice and compassion, the God who tells us that "Yes" means "Yes", "No" means "No", "Thou shall not move your neighbor's boundary marker, kill, steal, swear false testimony, must not thwart justice to suit the powerful at the expense of the and that your ultimate loyalty is to telling the truth factually and that your heart is undivided.

Krishna/GodK -- The God of Prabhupada and Chris Butler and possibly the God that ISKON and Butler devotees actually swear by when holding a copy of the Bhagavad Gita.

GodK--GodK stands above the world of matter, stands above the world that GodA works in. GodK does not operate in the world of matter but regards only the Krishna cult devotee who has rejected the world.

Anyone who is not a K cult devotee is beneath GodK.

This is not the GodA of the Founding Fathers. THis is the GodK of Prabhupada and Chris Butler --and of all who take orders from them.

Officers of the law have to ask whether a Krishna devotee is swearing to tell the truth of GodA or the malleable context dependant 'truyth" of GodK, the one who
stole rice, danced with married women, and told Arjuna to do the dharma duty and kill, because in the end, death is mere illusion.

GodK plays games with human lives. The God who sees devotees as worthy and unbelievers as corrupt and part of an evil world.

GodK tells us it is OK to kill, lie and steal, if we are devoteed to Krishna
and if we have rejected the world of illusion and all the believers in it.

It is all just a game, leela.

Reject the world of illlusion, but court the citizens in that world of illusion who cast their votes.

(Ha, I actually wrote in error, "caste their votes")

Despise the unbelievers who are in the world of illusion, swear an oath in their courts to tell the truth, but smile sweetly at them, while knowing you serve GodK, not GodA, while letting the poor trusting fools assume you are praying to the same God they pray to.

It is all just GodK, Krishna's game - leela.

Do all you can to get tax exemptions so you can accumulate the money printed by that world of illusion.

It is all just GodK's, Krishna's game - leela.

To return to the story of the boy, his mother and the request for a snack,
let us take note that both a cookie and an apple could be called a snack.

But..the nutritional content of the cookie is different from the apple, making
the two quite different as snacks.

So, God, GodA, Krishna/GodK.

What's the difference in nutrition?

And..what may the difference be when swearing an oath - and canvassing for votes?

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