Vox ~ That movie clip was hysterical. Thanks so much for all of the laughs. Much appreciated.
It is neither conscious nor personal when under the influence of a flim flam man, a con man, a manipulative poseur.
Butler hides behind so many layers and facades. Hiding under The myths of Hinduism, the disciplic succession, pure devotee-hood, infallibility, Butler can do and say anything.
His famous public humiliation "chastisement tapes" hold sway over his most devoted followers. It is a sick, but very effective method of holding on to followers; decimating critical thinking and resistance. A strange form of "Stockhom Syndrome" occurs with these people, so real choice is not even a consideration.
corboy and Rick Ross ~ Do you know of any good articles explaining public humiliation techniques as used by LGATs and cults?
Found another Butler propaganda website, translated into Croatian, Romanian, German, and Polish. That part of the world has been in a lot of turmoil, ripe for "spiritual answers". What is lacking are the real teachings of Butler on the website. The idyllic Bhakti Shack world of Hawaii looks like heaven on earth.
Hiding in his own mirror image, here is a great example of Jagad Guru Chris Butler (Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa)'s veiw of himself in his own words. As corboy stated, it is not the philosophy but the behavior of cult leaders that is important.
Unfortunate indeed. What the Poles, Croats, Romanians, Germans, and everyone else don't know is that this cult is not some flowery answer to economic chaos, wars and sectarian violence. It is just another frying pan to get toasted in for the benefit of a few elite masters. The website hides the real mind and spirit of Jagged Screwball. It hides what you will actually be doing once you are fully "surrendered" and given over all your time, money, life, and sadly, the life of your children who have no real choice in the matter.
Is making a choice under the influence of a guru a conscious choice or giving over choice?
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IanKoviak
Austerity and renunciation of comforts is part of most spiritual practice and comes with the territory. That's a conscious personal choice most make.
...there is allowance given for such extreme exhibitions of abuse, while maintaining that the pure Devotee is beyond material consideration. How convenient.
...Many of these injunctions reek of brahminical superiority complexes to keep the population subjugated while the top half goes unquestioned. So many times I have seen these Groos being asked questions that they answer with something so unintelligible yet, everyone just moves along and takes it as it is without calling them on it and telling them that what they just said makes absolutely no sense.
It is neither conscious nor personal when under the influence of a flim flam man, a con man, a manipulative poseur.
Butler hides behind so many layers and facades. Hiding under The myths of Hinduism, the disciplic succession, pure devotee-hood, infallibility, Butler can do and say anything.
His famous public humiliation "chastisement tapes" hold sway over his most devoted followers. It is a sick, but very effective method of holding on to followers; decimating critical thinking and resistance. A strange form of "Stockhom Syndrome" occurs with these people, so real choice is not even a consideration.
corboy and Rick Ross ~ Do you know of any good articles explaining public humiliation techniques as used by LGATs and cults?
Found another Butler propaganda website, translated into Croatian, Romanian, German, and Polish. That part of the world has been in a lot of turmoil, ripe for "spiritual answers". What is lacking are the real teachings of Butler on the website. The idyllic Bhakti Shack world of Hawaii looks like heaven on earth.
Hiding in his own mirror image, here is a great example of Jagad Guru Chris Butler (Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa)'s veiw of himself in his own words. As corboy stated, it is not the philosophy but the behavior of cult leaders that is important.
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Jagad Guru Chris Butler (Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa) © 2007 Science of Identity Foundation - fair use excerpt used for critical review
"Unfortunately, a person who is materialistic, greedy, and self-worshiping wants to take the place of God. He sees himself as the center of the universe. He sees everything and everyone-the world, people, his family, animals, plants, the environment-as revolving around him. He sees everything and everyone as meant for his enjoyment. The world is full of such exploitative people, and they cause so many problems."
Unfortunate indeed. What the Poles, Croats, Romanians, Germans, and everyone else don't know is that this cult is not some flowery answer to economic chaos, wars and sectarian violence. It is just another frying pan to get toasted in for the benefit of a few elite masters. The website hides the real mind and spirit of Jagged Screwball. It hides what you will actually be doing once you are fully "surrendered" and given over all your time, money, life, and sadly, the life of your children who have no real choice in the matter.
Is making a choice under the influence of a guru a conscious choice or giving over choice?