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Re: Mooji a cult?

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The "me" wants to grasp on to these speakers as authorities on the subject and follow them and do whatever they tell them needs to be done. The "me" thinks it needs to do something in order get something or make something happen to be something. He is saying that he is not that authority and nothing needs to happen because it's all just a bullshit story created by the "me".

And that is what these guru's are preying on, the bullshit story of "me" that needs a process to do something to get somewhere and make something happen so then it will be happy. This is the wheel of samsara, the cycle of suffering. The process of searching for what will make the "me" happy. It will never find it, and will try something else. If it does find happiness it will be short lived and then the cycle continues. Like a dog chasing its tail, always in sight and always just out of reach.

The retreats are the meetings you see on youtube. They are first come first serve, no prebooking. Yes he does charge a fee. If you watch any of the videos you will see that he jokes about it with them.

This is from a different speakers book.

"All there is is wholeness...boundless energy appearing as everything...the sky, trees, feelings, thoughts, whatever. It is the mystery of no thing simultaneously being everything.

There is nothing apart from the boundless everything and yet, because it is free, it can appear to be separate from itself...it can appear to be the story of 'me'. There is nothing right or wrong in that appearance which is wholeness apparently happening.

Contracted energy seems to rise in the human being and create a sense of separation out of which arises a unique sense of identity...self-consciousness. The 'me' is born and the story of 'me' seems to begin. 'Me' is the story and the story is 'me' and one cannot exist without the other. They both appear and function in a dualistic subject object reality which is maintained through the function of awareness. Everything seems to be personally experienced as a series of events in real time happening to a real 'me'. Within that story time, journey, purpose and free will and choice seem to be real.

...What arises from this once-removed sense is a subtle feelingof dissatisfaction; a feeling that something is lost or hidden. For most people this sense of dissatisfaction is not that apparent, and because they believe they are individuals with free will and choice they seem motivated to try to create a successful story...good relationships, good health, wealth, personal power or whatever else.

However, for some there is a greater sensitivity about something that seems to be missing. This feeling generates a longing for a deeper sense of fulfilment. There can be an investigation into religeon, therapy or the meaning of enlightenment. Because the 'me' has become convinced that it has means to influence its story, it also assumes that it can find deeper fulfilment through its own choice, determination and action.

Often because the 'me' feels it has lost something, there van be a sense of inadequacy and so what is pursued is a teaching that satisfies the need to do something which will bring about a personal transformation and make the 'me' worthy of fulfilment. All of this activity is apparently happening within the story of 'me' which is functioning in an artificial dualistic reality. So 'me' is searching in the finite for that which is infinite. It is something looking for another something, and what it really longs for remains unobtainable by already being everything. The essential futility of that searching inevitably fuels the sense of a 'me' who feels even more unworthy and separate.

...The basis of all teaching of becoming enlightened is the idea that a change of belief or experience can lead to a personal knowing of oneness, self-realization or of discovering your own true nature. The whole investment in a progressive path goes on feeding the story of 'me' attaining something. Even suggestion of personal surrender or acceptance can be initially attractive and bring a satisfying state...for a while. There are many so-called non-dual 'teachings' which feed the story of 'me' becoming liberated.

However, the oneness that is longed for is boundless and free. It cannot be grasped or even approached. Nor is there anything that would need to be done or changed or made better than that which is already everything.

The 'me' construct has no constancy. All of the 'me' story is only a dance of wholeness which is without significance or purpose.

When there is openess to the possibility of that which is beyond self-seeking and personal experience then it seems that the apparently contracted energy can colapse into the boundless freedom which already is. And still this is only another story which attempts to point to and describe a total paradox...the apparend end of something that was never real...the story of 'me'."

This is all that is being said here.

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