Hey i wrote in an earlier thread, i know you guys have questions but just writing the amount i did (for me) was a big deal for now.
I feel like something is up with the sahaja group, i dont think its any more or less than any other group has effected the world under the name of religion or spirituality, nothing anyone hasnt heard before.
That being said i have been reading many different perspectives about this now, and first of all it is very traumatizing to go from loving them and pretty much devoting your life to mooji/sahaja to hating them in one second, i dont really think that is helpful to "hate" on them, it scares people away who actually need your help.
The thing is, desiring to go there and be in that environment, or not be in that environment is a trigger from things already happening in you, its your own trigger. The various reasons or examples are endless. For me i had many personal desires for going that i was barely aware of until after leaving. Mostly i thought i was going to find God, but it really wasnt the case i wanted the magic, adventure, peace, happiness, the flawless beauty of the people attracted to being there, the "easy going" way of life and literally salvation from basic human struggles and inner conflict.
I wanted something in this case i labeled that something "enlightenment" and experienced the amount of whatever my expectation of that was, beyond that i was utterly overwhelmed and traumatized. By another load of impressions and experiences i dont really have words for right now.
One thing im noticing is that it can really make you feel an unhealthy divide between "enlightenment" and "non enlightenment" whatever that is. Like worthy/ unworthy, in sahaja, you really start to believe you are "not enlightened" because obviously if there is one whos enlightened and a TON of others apparently are not including you, everyones trying to "make it" to Moojis "enlightened" state.
However he does state things clearly and simply enough and from a true enough place that most people will resonate with his pointings or at least be like, "cool guy", "yeah, that sounds about true". From that to both extremes of hating or worshipping him.
Im starting to see it really is subjective to the person (haha) funnily enough, using satsang, mooji worship, the environment of the sahaja community, & using that to cope with or learn about whatever they happen to be experiencing in themselves at the time that they cant explain themselves and noone is giving them a clear concise explaination.
For example: for somebody experiencing mental distress, and a people close to them only know about allopathic medication, trying to force them to take meds but they dont want to choose that, & have no other influences or info. about alternative medicines/medications/therapies.
They stumble upon a mooji satsang on youtube, bam, it is THE recipe, its a new fresh outlook, one you have not discovered. The thing is the essence of what Mooji is teaching has substance, undeniable power and truth in it. BECAUSE like the lady who just posted the facebook video said "it doesnt belong to him". These teachings have literally been around forEVER in almost every culture in one way or another. The modern way of finding out these teachings happens to be through Mooji right now in the western world.
Its when you go into the details is when things get weird.
It seems like it is a genuinely helpful path for people for a while, then some other stuff surfaces, whether in them or in Mooji/Sahaja crew.
When i was there, there were many misguided and vulnerable people in the "inner" circle (people who seemed to regularly live in or around sahaja). It was the first time they were hearing these very powerful teachings, but there was kind of no further instruction but "LOVE" (guru/self/neighbor/life).
That is actually enough for some which im very envious of, but for many, things can become convoluted and utterly unbearable. Youve finally admitted, "nothing is real". Okay, now what? Moojis way of addressing this is "what next?" "No next" it works for some, others it doesnt. Some dont need next anymore, for quite a while, some are now living in a confusion unimaginable to most people. Permanent acid trip, ready or not, is a good way to describe it.
I feel like something is up with the sahaja group, i dont think its any more or less than any other group has effected the world under the name of religion or spirituality, nothing anyone hasnt heard before.
That being said i have been reading many different perspectives about this now, and first of all it is very traumatizing to go from loving them and pretty much devoting your life to mooji/sahaja to hating them in one second, i dont really think that is helpful to "hate" on them, it scares people away who actually need your help.
The thing is, desiring to go there and be in that environment, or not be in that environment is a trigger from things already happening in you, its your own trigger. The various reasons or examples are endless. For me i had many personal desires for going that i was barely aware of until after leaving. Mostly i thought i was going to find God, but it really wasnt the case i wanted the magic, adventure, peace, happiness, the flawless beauty of the people attracted to being there, the "easy going" way of life and literally salvation from basic human struggles and inner conflict.
I wanted something in this case i labeled that something "enlightenment" and experienced the amount of whatever my expectation of that was, beyond that i was utterly overwhelmed and traumatized. By another load of impressions and experiences i dont really have words for right now.
One thing im noticing is that it can really make you feel an unhealthy divide between "enlightenment" and "non enlightenment" whatever that is. Like worthy/ unworthy, in sahaja, you really start to believe you are "not enlightened" because obviously if there is one whos enlightened and a TON of others apparently are not including you, everyones trying to "make it" to Moojis "enlightened" state.
However he does state things clearly and simply enough and from a true enough place that most people will resonate with his pointings or at least be like, "cool guy", "yeah, that sounds about true". From that to both extremes of hating or worshipping him.
Im starting to see it really is subjective to the person (haha) funnily enough, using satsang, mooji worship, the environment of the sahaja community, & using that to cope with or learn about whatever they happen to be experiencing in themselves at the time that they cant explain themselves and noone is giving them a clear concise explaination.
For example: for somebody experiencing mental distress, and a people close to them only know about allopathic medication, trying to force them to take meds but they dont want to choose that, & have no other influences or info. about alternative medicines/medications/therapies.
They stumble upon a mooji satsang on youtube, bam, it is THE recipe, its a new fresh outlook, one you have not discovered. The thing is the essence of what Mooji is teaching has substance, undeniable power and truth in it. BECAUSE like the lady who just posted the facebook video said "it doesnt belong to him". These teachings have literally been around forEVER in almost every culture in one way or another. The modern way of finding out these teachings happens to be through Mooji right now in the western world.
Its when you go into the details is when things get weird.
It seems like it is a genuinely helpful path for people for a while, then some other stuff surfaces, whether in them or in Mooji/Sahaja crew.
When i was there, there were many misguided and vulnerable people in the "inner" circle (people who seemed to regularly live in or around sahaja). It was the first time they were hearing these very powerful teachings, but there was kind of no further instruction but "LOVE" (guru/self/neighbor/life).
That is actually enough for some which im very envious of, but for many, things can become convoluted and utterly unbearable. Youve finally admitted, "nothing is real". Okay, now what? Moojis way of addressing this is "what next?" "No next" it works for some, others it doesnt. Some dont need next anymore, for quite a while, some are now living in a confusion unimaginable to most people. Permanent acid trip, ready or not, is a good way to describe it.