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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: May 29, 2013 12:20AM
VERY IMPORTANT POINTS BY A EX DEVOTEE OF BUTLER THAT WAS BORN IN THE CULT
THE WAY THE CULT DEALT WITH THE SISTER OF MR DODGE IS SCANDALOUS ...
IF YOU STOP WORSHIPPING BUTLER AND SERVING HIM THIS POST TELLS YOU ARE YOU ARE QUICKLY OSTRACIZE FROM THE CULT .

In Shyam Dodge's book, "Wet Hot and Wild American Yogi"?
At least twice in the memoir and in his inteview, Shyam tells of the cult "line" that everyone used on him and his family after his father's death.
"The wise neither lament for the living or the dead." It's a quote from the Bhagavad Gita.
His mother and sister were suicidal and not allowed to grieve. His sister was sent away to the school in the Philippines as a cure.
Great - separate a grieving girl under the age of 11 to a far-off country and don't allow her to talk about or grieve her father.
They couldn't handle her distress so she was locked up in a room isolated most of the time. By the time Shyam saw her again she had pulled
most of her hair out...
Shyam was told that his 11 year old brother was selfish and materialistic for missing his father and crying over his death.
They were told that they were preventing their father from moving on to the spiritual world by their grief.
People in this cult are not allowed to grieve or feel compassion for other's who are suffering in their own community.
When there was a suicide in the cult, this is the line given to widows and chilren. It is such a powerful and stop gap phrase
that shuts down all humanity. "The wise neither lament for the living or the dead." unless the guru gets sick or his paramour
gets in an accident - then it is the fault and sins of the followers... Butler claims to take on the karma of his initiates.
So the followers total concerns and loyalty are centered around getting every one of guru's OCD needs met.
If a kid doesn't get the party line after years of indoctrination,
after a certain age, the kid gets cut loose. He is of no use to Butler.
He has probably been labeled an "aparadha" (blasphemer) by Butler so no family members are allowed to contact him.

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