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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity

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Posted by Vera city July 2008

Chris Butler was told by Swami Bhaktivedanta to STOP using "PSYCHIC SLEEP" a process very similar to hypnosis that BUTLER was using in the Krishna temples when he first came to be a devotee of Krishna ...Did he replace "psychic sleep with other mind control techniques over the years ??

"Have you ever been to a live hypnosis show or gone to a hypnotist to stop a bad habit? It is always surprising to see who goes under easily and who obviously is resistant. My father, a brilliant and inventive man used to say it was all nonsense, yet he would be the first guy to go under at entertainment hypnosis shows, according to my mom. I had dinner with some friends recently where hypnosis was the topic of conversation. One suggested that a person with greater intelligence is more susceptible to hypnosis because they make more connections in their thinking and have greater access to information in their brains, (but he couldn’t cite any research to prove this. ) Another suggested that it has nothing to do with intelligence, rather it is the more creative people with high imaginative capabilities who are most susceptible to hypnosis because they have greater access to the subconscious mind (one could argue that creativity and imagination is a form of higher level thinking/ intelligence). He also suggested that the ability to be hypnotized is an innate talent like the ability to draw and that it is also a skill that can be developed.

Googling, think about how you got involved in CB’s cult. Just like with hypnosis, you are put into a relaxed state of mind and had positive, high expectations about what would happen in your life as a result of the experience. You are inducted into a relaxed state of mind to receive new messages beyond your conscious mind. This was reinforced by a convincing and supportive peer group that seemed to be really nice (cool, reliable, educated, credible…) people. What you didn’t realize is that those new friends had already been deeply reformed. You didn’t “feel” manipulated or hypnotized, but there you and others were for years.

CB has followers chant mantras, make kirtans (group chanting with musical instruments), eat nice vegetarian food, listen to lectures. These are all very pleasant and relaxing experiences. Followers live a very healthy and clean lifestyle and manage ordinary businesses. What could be wrong with that? But while practicing the meditations and associating with people whose lives are completely invested in the cult, in this state, research has proven that you are very susceptible to hypnotic suggestions. Hypnosis can give you helpful suggestions to stop smoking or eat properly; or for entertainment purposes, make you act silly, but a cult uses the same techniques to make nefarious suggestions, like believing that an ordinary man is God’s representative on earth and you should give your life and money away to him. Where was your choice then? You really had none. You were set up (and luckily one of the few to escape.) You did not know then what you know now, so there was no choice. A reserved person does not go to a hypnotist's show to act like a chicken and get laughed at by the audience, but marvels later at how quickly and easily he was made to act that way.

A person who has been hypnotized will tell you they did not feel a thing. My father would argue pridefully with my mom that he never really went under. And with more meditation and practice, a follower becomes more adept at deepening the inductive process and reinforcing the cult dogma. I think that the people in Chris Butler’s cult honestly do not think they have been programmed. When you watch an ad or news on television, you can argue back, hold a different opinion, chose not to buy a product, turn it off, write a letter to the editor, email a congressman. You can’t do that in a cult."

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