Posted by: zelig ()
Date: May 16, 2007
Message from Kanaka:
I was a long time follower of Siddhaswarupa Prabhu, the truth of the matter is most of the negative stuff being advertised on the internet is true. Much is exaggerated but what would you expect? Butler is extremely paranoid and secretive.
It was pointed out on another website by a former follower that Siddha has symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I am another one who can verify that to be true.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder Symptoms:
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
(4) requires excessive admiration
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Siddhaswarupa has all the above characteristics in full.
Butler has said many times only his wife and adopted kids understands him and loves him. He says they are the only ones he can trust. The rest of his disciples are not trust worthy.
(4) requires excessive admiration:
He has given himself pompous titles like Jagad Guru, Paramahamsa and even Prabhupada, while not allowing others any titles at all. Even his appointed gurus within his organization are not allowed to be called Prabhu or given any titles of respect. When a disciple asked if they could refer to Sudama Vipra das by some title, Siddha blasted the person for asking the question saying Sudama did not need any title. I understand Sudama left the group over a decade ago, dismayed at Siddhas behaviour. Everyone was told Sudama was a great offender and could never come back.
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
He is treated like the deity with an overly excessive amount of personal servants. It takes all day to cook for him and his wife. The cooks get up at 4 am and do not retire till after 10 pm. I saw this myself. He rarely takes prasadam from the Lords plate. Everything is offered to him directly. . I witnessed him renting a lear jet for personal travel at a cost of over 100,000 dollars. How many times he did that I don’t know. But I was there and helped prepare one of them so I know this is true. If anyone dares to object to anything Siddha wants they are immediately blacklisted and banned from his close association if not banned altogether. A slight infraction means public humiliation with letters sent worldwide so everyone knows who the offender is. In his mansions he has to have special air machines at a cost of somewhere around 80,000 dollars a piece. Usually, there are doubles of these machines in every residence in case one breaks.
He gets very angry at the smallest offense, things that are really not even an offense he condemns all his disciples worldwide for. I have seen messages sent worldwide condemning all his followers for slight discrepancies that took place in his personal service. Followers around the world are expected to solve the problems of his personal servants and are held accountable and condemned for the slightest infractions.
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
I have seen families torn apart and devotees lives ruined when they did not follow his wishes or decided they wanted to go somewhere else for spiritual help. Look at what happened in the P.I. with the disciple who wanted to take diksa from B.V. Narayana Maharaja. He also condemned some of his followers who went to Srila Sridhara Deva Goswami Maharaja when he broke sannyasa. For his own means he makes his followers dance like dogs not caring for any backlash or trouble this causes his disciples.
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
While he was living in mansions in Malibu, New Zealand, Honolulu and other places his followers, even those in his personal service, were dumpster diving to eat. He said point blank it would be ok to offer things gathered from the dumpsters to Krishna and it was ok for his disciples to get food from the garbage if they were that hungry. . While he sat in an oceanfront mansion at Diamond Head at a cost of somewhere around 10,000 dollars a month his followers were suffering greatly, living lower than the poverty level, and he was still demanding they give a sizeable portion of the little money they had to him so he could use it in Krishnas service. He is fond of humiliating his disciples in front of other people with no empathy or feelings about how that makes them feel.
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(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Things that I have seen first hand.
His toenails given out as Maha Prashad.(HOLY FOOD ) His wife started this. His step son told me personally that his mother said we should eat Siddhas toenails.
Disciples fined up to $10,000 for offensesagaints their master
Disciples forced to fast from food water and sleep due to supposed offenses
Out right lying and covert operations in the political arena in Hawaii.
Special treatment for his adopted family.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg…
Anyway buyer beware, all gurus are not the same, there are gradations of guru.
Be careful who you follow.
Date: May 16, 2007
Message from Kanaka:
I was a long time follower of Siddhaswarupa Prabhu, the truth of the matter is most of the negative stuff being advertised on the internet is true. Much is exaggerated but what would you expect? Butler is extremely paranoid and secretive.
It was pointed out on another website by a former follower that Siddha has symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I am another one who can verify that to be true.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder Symptoms:
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
(4) requires excessive admiration
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Siddhaswarupa has all the above characteristics in full.
Butler has said many times only his wife and adopted kids understands him and loves him. He says they are the only ones he can trust. The rest of his disciples are not trust worthy.
(4) requires excessive admiration:
He has given himself pompous titles like Jagad Guru, Paramahamsa and even Prabhupada, while not allowing others any titles at all. Even his appointed gurus within his organization are not allowed to be called Prabhu or given any titles of respect. When a disciple asked if they could refer to Sudama Vipra das by some title, Siddha blasted the person for asking the question saying Sudama did not need any title. I understand Sudama left the group over a decade ago, dismayed at Siddhas behaviour. Everyone was told Sudama was a great offender and could never come back.
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
He is treated like the deity with an overly excessive amount of personal servants. It takes all day to cook for him and his wife. The cooks get up at 4 am and do not retire till after 10 pm. I saw this myself. He rarely takes prasadam from the Lords plate. Everything is offered to him directly. . I witnessed him renting a lear jet for personal travel at a cost of over 100,000 dollars. How many times he did that I don’t know. But I was there and helped prepare one of them so I know this is true. If anyone dares to object to anything Siddha wants they are immediately blacklisted and banned from his close association if not banned altogether. A slight infraction means public humiliation with letters sent worldwide so everyone knows who the offender is. In his mansions he has to have special air machines at a cost of somewhere around 80,000 dollars a piece. Usually, there are doubles of these machines in every residence in case one breaks.
He gets very angry at the smallest offense, things that are really not even an offense he condemns all his disciples worldwide for. I have seen messages sent worldwide condemning all his followers for slight discrepancies that took place in his personal service. Followers around the world are expected to solve the problems of his personal servants and are held accountable and condemned for the slightest infractions.
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
I have seen families torn apart and devotees lives ruined when they did not follow his wishes or decided they wanted to go somewhere else for spiritual help. Look at what happened in the P.I. with the disciple who wanted to take diksa from B.V. Narayana Maharaja. He also condemned some of his followers who went to Srila Sridhara Deva Goswami Maharaja when he broke sannyasa. For his own means he makes his followers dance like dogs not caring for any backlash or trouble this causes his disciples.
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
While he was living in mansions in Malibu, New Zealand, Honolulu and other places his followers, even those in his personal service, were dumpster diving to eat. He said point blank it would be ok to offer things gathered from the dumpsters to Krishna and it was ok for his disciples to get food from the garbage if they were that hungry. . While he sat in an oceanfront mansion at Diamond Head at a cost of somewhere around 10,000 dollars a month his followers were suffering greatly, living lower than the poverty level, and he was still demanding they give a sizeable portion of the little money they had to him so he could use it in Krishnas service. He is fond of humiliating his disciples in front of other people with no empathy or feelings about how that makes them feel.
.
(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Things that I have seen first hand.
His toenails given out as Maha Prashad.(HOLY FOOD ) His wife started this. His step son told me personally that his mother said we should eat Siddhas toenails.
Disciples fined up to $10,000 for offensesagaints their master
Disciples forced to fast from food water and sleep due to supposed offenses
Out right lying and covert operations in the political arena in Hawaii.
Special treatment for his adopted family.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg…
Anyway buyer beware, all gurus are not the same, there are gradations of guru.
Be careful who you follow.