happytown Wrote:
>
> A double bind contains four basic features:
>
> 1.You must do A.
> 2.You must do B.
> 3.B is the opposite of A.
> 4.You cannot discuss this contradiction.
>
> For example:
> 1. You must come out of your egoic mind and
> surrender to God in order to be happy.
> 2. You must accept that your mind will never
> willingly surrender.
> 3. You must do what you can never do.
> 4. If you don't understand, it's because you
> haven't surrendered. I'm not interested in
> explaining it to your egoic mind.
>
> The more willingly you embrace the task of
> resolving this, the faster the result. And the
> result is a psychological collapse which, compared
> to the anxiety-producing double bind, feels
> frickin' awesome.
>
> If you resist, it means you're in your mind.The
> mind is the problem (i.e. you are the problem) and
> so the mind (you) will be pressured and treated
> with increasing contempt until you either
> surrender, run away, or go insane.
>
I think Happytown sums this thought-reform process up really well. It's a total escape from rational thinking that can feel like freedom, at first. But then it doesn't. It kind of feels more like confusion, the longer you sit with it. And confusion is very unpleasant.
This actually happened to me. I went through this process, watching Moo videos online. I was a victim of thought-reform. Only one problem; I knew that if I really was experiencing a kind of spiritual enlightenment, then I wouldn't feel so confused.
Because I had already had some spontaneous transcendent experiences when I was younger. These experiences were wonderful, but not confusing. In fact, they were very clear and bright and happy experiences. Comparing the two - confusion induced by thought-reform and spontaneous transcendence, they were very different.
Moo dresses up confusion as 'enlightenment' and I think this is manipulative and deceptive. I can't see how thought-reform can be for a 'person's own good'. I can't see it that way. It is not to anyone's benefit to be deceived in this way. It is setting people way back on their spiritual paths: but that is not the only problem.
People are giving up their jobs and their families and their hard-earned money to something that is only a scam.
>
> A double bind contains four basic features:
>
> 1.You must do A.
> 2.You must do B.
> 3.B is the opposite of A.
> 4.You cannot discuss this contradiction.
>
> For example:
> 1. You must come out of your egoic mind and
> surrender to God in order to be happy.
> 2. You must accept that your mind will never
> willingly surrender.
> 3. You must do what you can never do.
> 4. If you don't understand, it's because you
> haven't surrendered. I'm not interested in
> explaining it to your egoic mind.
>
> The more willingly you embrace the task of
> resolving this, the faster the result. And the
> result is a psychological collapse which, compared
> to the anxiety-producing double bind, feels
> frickin' awesome.
>
> If you resist, it means you're in your mind.The
> mind is the problem (i.e. you are the problem) and
> so the mind (you) will be pressured and treated
> with increasing contempt until you either
> surrender, run away, or go insane.
>
I think Happytown sums this thought-reform process up really well. It's a total escape from rational thinking that can feel like freedom, at first. But then it doesn't. It kind of feels more like confusion, the longer you sit with it. And confusion is very unpleasant.
This actually happened to me. I went through this process, watching Moo videos online. I was a victim of thought-reform. Only one problem; I knew that if I really was experiencing a kind of spiritual enlightenment, then I wouldn't feel so confused.
Because I had already had some spontaneous transcendent experiences when I was younger. These experiences were wonderful, but not confusing. In fact, they were very clear and bright and happy experiences. Comparing the two - confusion induced by thought-reform and spontaneous transcendence, they were very different.
Moo dresses up confusion as 'enlightenment' and I think this is manipulative and deceptive. I can't see how thought-reform can be for a 'person's own good'. I can't see it that way. It is not to anyone's benefit to be deceived in this way. It is setting people way back on their spiritual paths: but that is not the only problem.
People are giving up their jobs and their families and their hard-earned money to something that is only a scam.