Pro Moo Supporters vs Those Voicing Concerns About Moo

I have sent a private message to the moderator about this discussion.

Again, readers are invited to read material written by Moo supporters and compare it to material written by those concerned about Moo, such as happytown who was brave enough to begin this discussion which was quiet at first and has since xivoparig's post on August, become the most viewed discussion on CEI for the past 3 months.

xivoparig's material can be read here:

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I originally posted about this 1 to 2 days ago, about two pages back. The visitation by three Moo apologists has buried this so am taking the liberty of publishing this item once more.

Here are the posts by those supporting Moo and in a separate catagory, posts by those concerned about Moo and conditions at the Monte Sahaja ashram.

To help new visitors to this discussion, posts from Moo supporters and posts from those worried about Moo are organized in two catagories.

Readers are invited to compare and contrast how the two groups compare in terms of substance, civility, etc.

Moo is a regarded as a teacher.

A teacher is known by the quality of his students.

Moo Supporters


Applejuice Constantin says, " I have been with Mooji and later here at Sahaja since 2011."

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Applejuice writes:

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"Just so you know where I'm coming from, I've followed Mooji's teachings for over 10 years on and off, so I witnessed him speak to a half empty room to forming Monte Sahaja and becoming a spiritual superstar. I have never lived at Monte Sahaja, although I stayed there for a few weeks."

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Corboy note: compare this with Constantin, someone concerned about Moo (see below) who writes:

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https://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,135827,142901#msg-142901I was very happy to read this thread since many things that are said here have been watched here first hand. I have been with Mooji and later here at Sahaja since 2011.

Constantin's material is below, amongst those expressing concerns about Moo.

Perhaps by cooincidence, Applejuice and Jerkchicken arrived following Constantin's report. Mara Fiota returned, having been absent for the past 7 weeks.

Mara Fiota

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Wombat

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Jerkchicken (honeyed condescension)

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Concerned About Moo

Note: xivoparig claims first hand experience, as does bringinthecat and StartingOver.

Constantin, bringinthecat and StartingOver all claim to have been at Monte Sahaja.

xivoparig (Reportedly followed Moo on tour and witnessed disturbing things. After xivoparig posted, the Moo thread view count skyrocketed and we had our first visits from...energized Moo supporters.


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After xivoparig arrived, Mara Fiota and Wombat appeared.


Following Constantin's arrival, Mara Fiota returned, having been absent for the past 7 weeks.


Constantin Applejuice, the Moo supporter says he or she has followed Moo off and on for about ten years. Constantin says, " I have been with Mooji and later here at Sahaja since 2011."

All of Constantin's posts here:

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Constantin's first post, offering insider credentials:

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Date: October 25, 2018 01:17AM

Hello Everyone!

I was very happy to read this thread since many things that are said here have been watched here first hand. I have been with Mooji and later here at Sahaja since 2011.

Its very hard difficult to get out of this cult because the amount of bliss one can receive, or seemingly so.

But red flags kept coming over the years and now.....well it's not a question any more. Mooji is a cult. The amount of evidence is overwhelming.

We can go into detail all day, but i wish to make a few points that have not come to light in this thread so far.

Firstly Moo likes to control peoples lives, down to who they have sex with with. And because of this there are people going around to see who is sleeping with who.

Furthermore Moo has two faces, one in satsang, where he is lovely and friendly, and then there is the other guy who is very bad tempered and can be callus, rough and will talk behind your back.


Mooji does not follow through with things he says and promises. He makes big meetings about something very important, but then nothing happens.

So the outcome is more and more politics and power games within the Ashram.

And again I would like to point out that many of the stories you hear about Moo cult are true, of course not all of it. We always have to watch out for BS.

So thank you all again for this thread, truth is more important than farce.

C.L.

bringinthecat (visited monte sahaja did seva work there)

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Date: March 30, 2018 05:59AM

I went to mooji's ashram in 2014 for a few months. I was doing seva there on their building projects, building a new temple. I had a good time and got a lot out of it.

reading all this had brought back a memory that I feel I should share though, because it bothers me in retrospect. About the woman referenced as mooji's ex. We were gathered for one of the many spontaneous satsangs that take place there. About one hundred people were there I guess. It was a different feel, like something bad had happened. It was about some disgruntled student who had written an angry letter. It felt a bit uncomfortable, but the general vibe was that the student had got it wrong. It was about getting people's opinions on what had happened. It had a sort of tribunal feel, but whoever wrote the letter wasn't there.

towards the end, this woman identified as mooji's ex on this website got up and started shouting at him. It was awkward and sudden. She was very upset. I recall Mooji wafting his hand at her and saying "you were too attached".

anyway it's on tape and there were about one hundred people there I am sure. I remember at the time thinking that people are going through things in this ashram environment, and it can be very challenging. And of course mooji was a sage and not to be mistaken with a regular guy.

But four years on, and now especially with this #metoo movement always in the news, I had to reassess and speak up, albeit anonymously. In what other area would a sixty year old man leaving his partner for a much younger woman be accepted as being for her own good because she was too attached? It's ludricous. It'S weird how it seemed acceptable.

I know this is all hearsay, but as I said, it was all recorded in front of many witnesses.

StartingOver (Identifies as a longtime Mooji supporter who spent 'quite a bit of time' at Monte Sahaja')

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Date: March 31, 2018 07:25PM

I was a long time supporter of mooji and spent quite a bit of time at Sahaja. As someone who was very close to Mooji and the Sangha I can tell you that sahaja is actaully wiretapped to record and monitor phone calls and conversations on the land. Mooji has spies there and uses them to give him info on those visiting which he uses to pretend that he knows what they are thinking. His old security who spent years with him is terrified of him. I recently has a conversation with him and really felt bad for the guy. It seems Mooji really screwed up this guys life.There is definitely a cult around him. I left him with my dignity barely in tact but I am very greatful I was able to escape as many are still there and not so fortunate. I really feel bad for alot of the people I know there as they think he is some God. Little do they know he is tricking them and using there vulnerabilty as a means of entrance into their minds. something has to be done to stop him. There is a documentary on Netfilx about the osho scandal, oddly enough spme of those people who were with Osho are now with Mooji. Really fucking scary.

StartingOver also wrote:

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Date: March 31, 2018 07:03PM

Found this on Reddit


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I recently posted a statement I found online regarding Mooji

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and an incident that happened at Sahaja and I see that it was deleted. With all due respect if we as students follow someone we have the right to know every aspect of him to be able to truly discern if he is right for us or not. I have seen many post that have been deleted by you guys that were seemingly making very valid concerns in regards to Mooji. I honestly am starting to become suspicious as to why their is a big effort to hide anything that paints Mooji in a negative light especially since he is suppose to be above all of this anyway. I would really appreciate a response and not a deletion. My text followed the guidelines of this reddit so i am really confused here. What is really the deal with Mooji and why are you guys blocking information about him? I never wanted to believe the rumors about him but one can only wonder why criticism of him is not allowed.

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Corboy note: in response a CEI discussion board member zizlz wrote:

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Date: April 02, 2018 08:56PM

Meanwhile on [reddit.com]

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the moderator keeps deleting everything even remotely critical of Mooji or the cult surrounding him. Recently someone made a post addressing this censorship, and of course that post was deleted by the moderator as well. Here's an archived snapshot of it: [archive.is]

Happytown -- started this discussion about Moo. As a result, a moderator protected discussion venue was available for those concerned about Moo who found attempted to discuss their concerns on Moo related discussions on reddit and were thwarted by pro Moo moderators.

In the past 2 to 3 days, it does appear that three pro Moo supporters have been directing pressure on happytown.

Happytown's posts are all here:

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Horowitz

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Sadgame

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Sahara 71

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Simplyput

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i yam what i yam

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