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Re: Hare Krishna sects not related to Chris Butler/SOI

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That bowing down thing is way, way over the top for this age and time. We did it during the 60s and the 70s because we didn’t know any better back then. We were so ignorant of so many things. But for today’s brain that is simply unacceptable and ridiculous. It would feel 20 times more demeaning now since our brains have evolved leaps and bounds in accumulated knowledge. Getting rid of that practice should be included in the “rebranding”, if they want to survive. Also, the term “absolute” truth does not make sense any longer.

I remember my mom used to say, “maybe, they know things we just don’t know”, referring to politicians who propose bills that violate constitutional rights like the police’s power to seize properties they suspected to be drug-related.

“No, mom, nothing is arcane anymore, including the constitution.” Anyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Everything is just one click away. There are no more excuses for Krishna devotees to insist that theirs is a genuine and most truthful religion. Their history, theology, politics, crimes, controversies, statements are properly documented. They have been proven guilty decades ago, the trial is over. Even their scriptures are full of holes. They have to level down and become accountable human beings just like anyone else and drop this moral superiority shtick. Gurus shit and have sexual urges just like anyone else.

Rick Ross’s book, Cults Inside Out concluded that as long as there’s money in brainwashing religious cults unfortunately will still be with us.

Brainwashing is not really that difficult. It’s just like making yoghourt. All you need is a bucket of milk and a culture. Once mixed and given time you’ll have a bucket of yoghourt. But there’s a way to spoil it. Knowledge is the anti-culture, even a pinch will stop the curd to solidify consistently.

Ian, thank you. This is the type of conversation I believe could be helpful to those engaged in a cultic practice, I wish other posters would contribute to as well. For the record, I do not hate Krishna devotees, as I do not hate my Christian, Jewish or Muslim brothers and sisters. I have met the nicest and most talented people in the cult. But I do want them to recognize what are obviously questionable, inappropriate and even criminal they get psychologically coerced to accept. If it is just for love, charity and peace, I will have no quarrel for.

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