Happytown say what you want. Nobody has been shamed for leaving. You won't find a single post, or hear about someone being shamed. So your articles are of little relevance to this discussion.
Sahara not sure what was confusing about my post, but I will try to clear some things up.
I never stated that Mooji's girlfriends were never his devotees. What I said was that he never preyed on his devotees in the way you describe. Sure some were his devotees, but of the thousands of women he meets each year, as far as I know he's only been with a handful, and they were proper relationships. I just meant Mooji is not known for sleeping around. I don't think you can find a single person who will tell you that Mooji sleeps around. But you can find people who watch videos of him where young ladies are gathered around, and they will be the ones to make up stuff.
Mooji and Krishnabi are not a couple. I'm sorry to burst your fantasy. This is well known inside and outside that she is his personal assistant and he treats her like a daughter. She has devoted her life to him in a way most other devotees don't. Believe me I've asked people close if they are together, I'm assured they are not. And in all honestly why would he need to hide it? Mooji has already announced his celibacy, and I just can't see him giving that up.
I wanted to be fair in my post, so I said I didn't know or could not comment on things that I held little knowledge of. I only speak of things which I know to be true.
That's why I could not comment on the suicide. I'd heard about it, but it never crossed my mind to ask for further info. I didn't know the person, but a lot of other people did and they say good things about the guy. I'll ask someone, and get back to you. But I'm not sure they could offer any further info. They were not inside the man's head, and he didn't leave a suicide note so we can't know what he was feeling. I know of another devotee suicide, but that happened away from Monte Sahaja, and this person had a history of mental illness.
I explained the sex life monitored stuff already. I was there and it's not true. The only thing remotely close is that people generally go to Mooji to discuss their relationships because they trust his advice. I know personally because a friend of mine did the same. Honestly when I was staying there I had relationship trouble, and wanted to speak to Mooji about this. People trust him, so whether you like it or not people will tell him intimate details freely. But if you don't want to talk about something he won't make you.
I already told you the official reason given for Mooji not travelling, and the unofficial reason.
I know you'll be disappointed, but I don't know why people wear white robes. I suppose it has something to do with traditional Indian spirituality? It has a holy vibe. I've always worn my regular clothes, jeans, sportswear, whatever feels most comfortable.
Kissing the masters feet comes from Indian tradition. Someone else in the thread explained it quite well. I got one have never kissed his feet. I've always greeted him with a hug. Never felt compelled to get down and do it, I don't think he really likes it. Believe me, people of their own volition go up with the intention of kissing his voice. You'll have to ask them directly why they do it.
I think I've already gave my opinion about the trance, and said yes it's a kind of trance, but for a 'positive' reason which is to relax the mind. That's why you feel so peaceful watching it. He doesn't put you in a trance, then tries to make you send him money or carry out a strange action. No, you just do the invitation, then carry on with your life.
I've already explained the photos part. Remember my example of people questioning the photos etc? It feels like genuinely think Mooji told them to hang his photo everywhere. People love Mooji's photo, go ask them to take it down. They won't lol.
I gave my opinion on shouting. In my 10 years of being around Mooji, and this includes in multiple countries and in private settings away from the camera I've never heard him shout. I mean not at his followers in a rude way. But I'm also not a disciple that travels everywhere with him, so I don't see everything that goes on. Therefore if he shouts it's probably a rare occurrence. He certainly doesn't go around shouting at people like a madman, which I feel is what you are trying to portray.
I'm not on the fence. To be clear, I think some of his followers are like sheep with no direction, some aren't. I think Mooji is a great person, but feel over the years his teaching may have declined in quality. And I personally wish he would not allow his follows to take charge of the direction his movement is going in.
For your last question, I already gave my answer. I don't know much about cults, but I don't think Mooji is a cult. He doesn't prey on his devotees for sexual services. He isn't trying to get as rich as possible. During the time I stayed there I had lost my job and they let me stay for free. And I wasn't forced to do seva(work on the land). Mooji doesn't live in a castle on a hill surrounded by bodyguards. Anyone can tell you he regularly walks/drives around and has random conversations with everyone. So I don't see how people claim he acts like a God in Monte Sahaja. I think his appearance in satsang makes it look like Mooji is a lazy fat guy. Anybody who has been to Sahaja can verify he's very active, and working on a project, and sometimes helped physically. He's getting on in age but does what he can.
Nobody is forced or coerced into staying any longer than they want to. People carry their phones and Wi-Fi is available, so they are not cut off from the outside world.
The only thing I think is cult like is the worship. But people choose to worship him, I've never worshipped him, just like many others don't. It would be nice if he actively told people not to worship him, but he doesn't so it's a little frustrating.
Sahara not sure what was confusing about my post, but I will try to clear some things up.
I never stated that Mooji's girlfriends were never his devotees. What I said was that he never preyed on his devotees in the way you describe. Sure some were his devotees, but of the thousands of women he meets each year, as far as I know he's only been with a handful, and they were proper relationships. I just meant Mooji is not known for sleeping around. I don't think you can find a single person who will tell you that Mooji sleeps around. But you can find people who watch videos of him where young ladies are gathered around, and they will be the ones to make up stuff.
Mooji and Krishnabi are not a couple. I'm sorry to burst your fantasy. This is well known inside and outside that she is his personal assistant and he treats her like a daughter. She has devoted her life to him in a way most other devotees don't. Believe me I've asked people close if they are together, I'm assured they are not. And in all honestly why would he need to hide it? Mooji has already announced his celibacy, and I just can't see him giving that up.
I wanted to be fair in my post, so I said I didn't know or could not comment on things that I held little knowledge of. I only speak of things which I know to be true.
That's why I could not comment on the suicide. I'd heard about it, but it never crossed my mind to ask for further info. I didn't know the person, but a lot of other people did and they say good things about the guy. I'll ask someone, and get back to you. But I'm not sure they could offer any further info. They were not inside the man's head, and he didn't leave a suicide note so we can't know what he was feeling. I know of another devotee suicide, but that happened away from Monte Sahaja, and this person had a history of mental illness.
I explained the sex life monitored stuff already. I was there and it's not true. The only thing remotely close is that people generally go to Mooji to discuss their relationships because they trust his advice. I know personally because a friend of mine did the same. Honestly when I was staying there I had relationship trouble, and wanted to speak to Mooji about this. People trust him, so whether you like it or not people will tell him intimate details freely. But if you don't want to talk about something he won't make you.
I already told you the official reason given for Mooji not travelling, and the unofficial reason.
I know you'll be disappointed, but I don't know why people wear white robes. I suppose it has something to do with traditional Indian spirituality? It has a holy vibe. I've always worn my regular clothes, jeans, sportswear, whatever feels most comfortable.
Kissing the masters feet comes from Indian tradition. Someone else in the thread explained it quite well. I got one have never kissed his feet. I've always greeted him with a hug. Never felt compelled to get down and do it, I don't think he really likes it. Believe me, people of their own volition go up with the intention of kissing his voice. You'll have to ask them directly why they do it.
I think I've already gave my opinion about the trance, and said yes it's a kind of trance, but for a 'positive' reason which is to relax the mind. That's why you feel so peaceful watching it. He doesn't put you in a trance, then tries to make you send him money or carry out a strange action. No, you just do the invitation, then carry on with your life.
I've already explained the photos part. Remember my example of people questioning the photos etc? It feels like genuinely think Mooji told them to hang his photo everywhere. People love Mooji's photo, go ask them to take it down. They won't lol.
I gave my opinion on shouting. In my 10 years of being around Mooji, and this includes in multiple countries and in private settings away from the camera I've never heard him shout. I mean not at his followers in a rude way. But I'm also not a disciple that travels everywhere with him, so I don't see everything that goes on. Therefore if he shouts it's probably a rare occurrence. He certainly doesn't go around shouting at people like a madman, which I feel is what you are trying to portray.
I'm not on the fence. To be clear, I think some of his followers are like sheep with no direction, some aren't. I think Mooji is a great person, but feel over the years his teaching may have declined in quality. And I personally wish he would not allow his follows to take charge of the direction his movement is going in.
For your last question, I already gave my answer. I don't know much about cults, but I don't think Mooji is a cult. He doesn't prey on his devotees for sexual services. He isn't trying to get as rich as possible. During the time I stayed there I had lost my job and they let me stay for free. And I wasn't forced to do seva(work on the land). Mooji doesn't live in a castle on a hill surrounded by bodyguards. Anyone can tell you he regularly walks/drives around and has random conversations with everyone. So I don't see how people claim he acts like a God in Monte Sahaja. I think his appearance in satsang makes it look like Mooji is a lazy fat guy. Anybody who has been to Sahaja can verify he's very active, and working on a project, and sometimes helped physically. He's getting on in age but does what he can.
Nobody is forced or coerced into staying any longer than they want to. People carry their phones and Wi-Fi is available, so they are not cut off from the outside world.
The only thing I think is cult like is the worship. But people choose to worship him, I've never worshipped him, just like many others don't. It would be nice if he actively told people not to worship him, but he doesn't so it's a little frustrating.