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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by Constantin
October 25, 2018
Hello Everyone!
I was very happy to read this thread since many things that are said here have been watched here first hand. I have been with Mooji and later here at Sahaja since 2011. Its very hard difficult to get out of this cult because the amount of bliss one can receive, or seemingly so....
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: yourinlove
October 24, 2018
....Soon, The Invitation became a label and books were published about it. In Monte Sahaja, the team put the Invitation to Freedom.....
Thanks for your first hand comments from Monta Sahaja.
I enclosed another comment to The Mooji’s Invitation to the Freedom “for immediate awakenings", the bliss experience in Monte Sahaja:
Some Mooji’s critics (neo-advaita-vedanta) say that seeing through the illusion of the personal “I” or the ego-mind optics is the main point of Mooji’s teachings but this understanding or recognition do not suffice to discover the true Self or the true human nature. According to these Mooji’s opponents, the enlightenment, bliss, or spiritual awakening experiences induced by Mooji and his satsangs or pointing out are considered to be short by dopamine/serotonin-reward releasing in the brain, problematic like a bliss-bobble, and superficial similar a heaven hypnosis.
Such indirect recognition or discovery could not be taken yet to be equal to the experience of the identity of Atman, the true Self, or the true human nature in one’s self, because there is still subject-object pattern present, the latent ego-mind is still active and one cannot leave the ego-mind aside so easily. The true human Self cannot be an object of the personal “I” or the object of the attention of the ego-mind. One cannot attend the true Self by means of the ego-mind so simply.
Much more realistic and modest point of view or approaches is an indirect recognition/experience of the non-existence of the "I" or ego-mind in the form of the silenced mind, a gap between two following thoughts, quite sensation, present moments/awareness, and deep meditation but only like a ‘gateway’ to the true Self. This is also a reason/argument why zen/budhhist monks, yogis, or some regular people meditate for years to turn the ego-mind inwards to be absorbed in the true Self by itself…
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by Constantin
October 25, 2018
Hello Everyone!
I was very happy to read this thread since many things that are said here have been watched here first hand. I have been with Mooji and later here at Sahaja since 2011. Its very hard difficult to get out of this cult because the amount of bliss one can receive, or seemingly so....
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: yourinlove
October 24, 2018
....Soon, The Invitation became a label and books were published about it. In Monte Sahaja, the team put the Invitation to Freedom.....
Thanks for your first hand comments from Monta Sahaja.
I enclosed another comment to The Mooji’s Invitation to the Freedom “for immediate awakenings", the bliss experience in Monte Sahaja:
Some Mooji’s critics (neo-advaita-vedanta) say that seeing through the illusion of the personal “I” or the ego-mind optics is the main point of Mooji’s teachings but this understanding or recognition do not suffice to discover the true Self or the true human nature. According to these Mooji’s opponents, the enlightenment, bliss, or spiritual awakening experiences induced by Mooji and his satsangs or pointing out are considered to be short by dopamine/serotonin-reward releasing in the brain, problematic like a bliss-bobble, and superficial similar a heaven hypnosis.
Such indirect recognition or discovery could not be taken yet to be equal to the experience of the identity of Atman, the true Self, or the true human nature in one’s self, because there is still subject-object pattern present, the latent ego-mind is still active and one cannot leave the ego-mind aside so easily. The true human Self cannot be an object of the personal “I” or the object of the attention of the ego-mind. One cannot attend the true Self by means of the ego-mind so simply.
Much more realistic and modest point of view or approaches is an indirect recognition/experience of the non-existence of the "I" or ego-mind in the form of the silenced mind, a gap between two following thoughts, quite sensation, present moments/awareness, and deep meditation but only like a ‘gateway’ to the true Self. This is also a reason/argument why zen/budhhist monks, yogis, or some regular people meditate for years to turn the ego-mind inwards to be absorbed in the true Self by itself…