Wombat Wrote:
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> When people come up to express doubt about what he
> teaches, he sometimes cuts right to trying to get
> them to use the doubt as a way to apply
> self-inquiry in much the same way that he would
> suggest using any strong emotion that comes up. I
> think that the doubts should be heard out more
> often.
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Yes, Wombat! You have really hit the nail on the head.
This is something I have also been trying to explain in more than one way, because it is important. Moo doesn't let people have a voice.
I don't know if you've heard of the term "Advaita Shuffle"? This is when you use Advaita philosophy to negate any question you don't like, by turning it back on the questioner. You can do it with any question at all. Moo does it all the time, you will notice.
If someone has doubts, Moo will say "who is this one who is doubting? Can you just be still and witness them?" The person with the doubts has their mind completely distracted by this line of questioning. Plus, they are in front of the Satsung crowd, so they are under pressure to "get it".
It's disorientating to have your question answered with another question, and it's good showmanship on behalf of the performer, Moo, as well. Now, the adience has there attention firmly off the doubts that were raised and firmly on the poor soul who is under the microscope, because he doesn't "get it."
The Satsung audience giggles with suspense! The show is captivating!
Notice how the intricacies of Advaita are avoided... It's just this one part of Advaita that is used continually - this "self-inquiry" strategy, which should more accurately be called self-negation.
A person is told that their doubts amount to nothing. That their own self amounts to nothing. Their life experience (Moo calls life experience your "story", in order to dsiminish it) amounts to nothing. They are nothing. Nothing at all.
This is thought-reform. It's a type of brainwashing. It's pretty effective on those who are suseptable. It can also cause psychosis, if a person is prone to psychosis. I think that is one reason why we see people who are off the planet in Moo videos....
Once the person is rendered into "nothing" by Moo, he can fill their head with all kinds of nonsense. He can extract their money from them pretty easily, too.
For those who undergo the Advaita Shuffle and are effectively transformed into Moo followers, the process is complete. It doesn't really matter what you tell these people anymore, they will show unswerving devotion to Moo. They will believe anything.... For example, "It's OK to lie for the guru" as one person commented on the Moo section of Gururating.org - I think it was.
This is what happened to me. Had I been present in the cult compound while the brainwashing took place, I think I would have ended up spending years there, incapacitated by thought-reform. As it took place in an environment where Moo did not have total control over me, by way of his minions, the thought-reform process eventually failed with me.
Thank God I didn't suffer psychosis, either.
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> When people come up to express doubt about what he
> teaches, he sometimes cuts right to trying to get
> them to use the doubt as a way to apply
> self-inquiry in much the same way that he would
> suggest using any strong emotion that comes up. I
> think that the doubts should be heard out more
> often.
>
Yes, Wombat! You have really hit the nail on the head.
This is something I have also been trying to explain in more than one way, because it is important. Moo doesn't let people have a voice.
I don't know if you've heard of the term "Advaita Shuffle"? This is when you use Advaita philosophy to negate any question you don't like, by turning it back on the questioner. You can do it with any question at all. Moo does it all the time, you will notice.
If someone has doubts, Moo will say "who is this one who is doubting? Can you just be still and witness them?" The person with the doubts has their mind completely distracted by this line of questioning. Plus, they are in front of the Satsung crowd, so they are under pressure to "get it".
It's disorientating to have your question answered with another question, and it's good showmanship on behalf of the performer, Moo, as well. Now, the adience has there attention firmly off the doubts that were raised and firmly on the poor soul who is under the microscope, because he doesn't "get it."
The Satsung audience giggles with suspense! The show is captivating!
Notice how the intricacies of Advaita are avoided... It's just this one part of Advaita that is used continually - this "self-inquiry" strategy, which should more accurately be called self-negation.
A person is told that their doubts amount to nothing. That their own self amounts to nothing. Their life experience (Moo calls life experience your "story", in order to dsiminish it) amounts to nothing. They are nothing. Nothing at all.
This is thought-reform. It's a type of brainwashing. It's pretty effective on those who are suseptable. It can also cause psychosis, if a person is prone to psychosis. I think that is one reason why we see people who are off the planet in Moo videos....
Once the person is rendered into "nothing" by Moo, he can fill their head with all kinds of nonsense. He can extract their money from them pretty easily, too.
For those who undergo the Advaita Shuffle and are effectively transformed into Moo followers, the process is complete. It doesn't really matter what you tell these people anymore, they will show unswerving devotion to Moo. They will believe anything.... For example, "It's OK to lie for the guru" as one person commented on the Moo section of Gururating.org - I think it was.
This is what happened to me. Had I been present in the cult compound while the brainwashing took place, I think I would have ended up spending years there, incapacitated by thought-reform. As it took place in an environment where Moo did not have total control over me, by way of his minions, the thought-reform process eventually failed with me.
Thank God I didn't suffer psychosis, either.