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Re: General Problems with Gurus

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Sorry, I just realised that you had the link in your post. And I've just read the blog post from your link.

It's interesting. I really don't know if there is such a thing as enlightenment, anymore. I think people experience spirituality in different ways.

My understanding is that Buddhist monks can clock up tens of thousands of hours of meditation and still not experience "enlightenment". So it's got to be an elusive thing, right? If they can't get it, it's unlikely to be something that we can get by reading some new-age book, is it?

Or going to yoga classes or contemplating the nature of being through self-inquiry, non-dual philosophy or whatever. It just seems pretty unlikely that most people are ever going to become enlightened.

I don't see this as a bad thing, either. There is so much in life to enjoy.... Why focus on some elusive goal that might not even change your life all that much? Like the Zen Buddists say:

Before Zen, chop wood, carry water.
After Zen, chop wood, carry water.

In other words; same, same, but different. You might obtain enlightenment and find that everything remains more or less the same.

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