I know my last three posts about what happens as people become more pulled into RealLove were long one’s, but I wanted to share as many of the angles I could, so that people could begin to see and/or realise how they, or someone they know of, might be, or are being pulled into RealLove or another cult. It really is all the little details that collectively show what something really is, as very often when we look at something ‘in general’ or overall (the sum) we don’t see that there is anything to be concerned about. Yet when we see the details (the parts), that’s when we really start to see what something really is. So, what else shows us in the clear of the day, why and how RealLove © Trademark, Registered is a cult? Here goes:-
People don’t just get involved with a Guru – they become absorbed into the entire social scene and dynamics that condenses and revolves around the Guru, in this case Greg Baer and his RealLove. Given time, as explained in the last three parts of this post, a person continuing to be involved with RealLove©Trademark Registered, will eventually be lost to their family and friends – for good. The person will be pulled into a culture of such total and blind commitment to the idea and practice of leading a whole new life through totally embracing the demi-God/Guru Greg Baer’s vision of ‘RealLove’. That devotion will mean that there can be NO deviation from it, no life outside of his RealLove principles. In fact this is something unthinkable – fearful even. So how, do you ask, does a seemingly rational and well-rounded person become so enthralled in following a leader, so much so that they end up dismissing entirely the reality of the world itself (the non-RealLove world/them) to follow one man’s vision (RealLove/us)? At some point it will all crash down them and everyone else involved in the cult – maybe not all at once (like the compound communes of the past), but one by one until all of them can see that there really was no paradise, no wonderful fear-free life, no road to healing, no perfect unconditionally loving existence. Without the Guru, Greg Baer’s words and guidance, his weekly video chats, his lap to sit on etc. there is no meaning for them to withdraw from the temptations of the big, bad, scary, mean, fearful, frightening world which is why they are reminded every week that RealLove is the best thing for them and that they should feel sorry for and pity all who are not doing or in RealLove as those people are just ‘in pain’, ‘believing the lies’ or ‘insane’. People once enthralled into full submission to RealLove, believe they are living on an island on unconditional love in a universe of hostility all around them. Everything outside of RealLove, and all people not ‘doing’ RealLove are perceived as hostile. While the RL adherent may not say this directly to anyone’s face or aloud in any way – they DO think it, and think it often!! While you are impassioning them to leave RL and trying to get them to see sense, they will just remain quiet while in their head they are feeling sorry for you and forgiving your hostile ways (your non-belief). [This is quite similar in some respects to JW’s, who most of the time merely ‘tolerate’ the damned to hell non-believers].
Without Guru Greg Baer there is very little substance to RealLove. However, what I can see has happened is that modern technology has allowed him to create what is basically a ‘Virtual Reality Commune’. People think that by doing RealLove that it is life coaching – but you don’t ‘do’ life coaching, you get life coaching. You don’t worship your life coach, leave your spouse, disconnect from your family and friends on the advice of a life coach – and then totally absorb yourself in all the life coach has to say, and have only his/her other clients as your friends. That sounds odd and ridiculous – because life coaching does not work like this. Neither does Counselling or therapy work like this either. People doing RealLove also speak of themselves as being ‘in RealLove’ which is an odd thing to say about a supposed life coaching arrangement. In counselling, therapy and life coaching there is the legal requirement to confidentiality. Thus, clients do not need to meet or be put in touch with each other, and neither are they expected to hang-out and share their selves and their secrets on secret social media pages. But time and time again RealLove adherents will categorically state that RealLove is not a cult because it is not running as a commune or compound and because Greg Baer has printed books. Yet, RealLove is most definitely a ‘Virtual Cult Commune’ in every sense of the word. Everyone tunes into Guru Greg’s chat each week, and excitedly shares with each other what Greg spoke about and what they should now do blahblahblah. The groups bring members together, and the seminars and weekends bring people from farther afield together. The nightly telephone conference calls keep everyone under control with the same double-binds and cult loaded language spouted night after night – keeping anyone who begins to doubt, well and truly from leaving. Meanwhile, Guru Greg merely sits in his favourite armchair and doesn’t have to exert much energy to keep all his adherents under his control – all without having to leave home and lift a finger. Coaches and wise people do all the work, and he just reaps the profits and enjoys being idol-worshipped. None of the adherents have much of a ‘normal’ life anymore, so technology connecting them all, is all that they have to feel the sense of community and togetherness. People stuck in RealLove have lost all desire to determine their own future without Greg Baer’s and RealLove’s guidance. No one needs a church or a religion when you have a Guru like Greg Baer, for in his follower’s eyes he is ultimate truth, and whatever he says is right or wrong is right or wrong despite what you may personally feel otherwise. There is however, no group process in place as well as no collective worth. There is no debate, challenge or counter-opinions against anything Guru Baer says – the power is at the top and that is where it remains.
Upon reading several books on cults I can see very clearly how Greg Baer created his RealLove – just the same way as others. By creating a hotch-potch of various different beliefs all thrown together in exactly the same way as the founders of Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Scientology, Lifespring, Universal Church (moonies), est, Landmark and so on……. Baer studied religions and spiritual beliefs, and has taken bits of different religious and spiritual concepts and woven them in to his RL (obviously, using LDS methods quite extensively) thus it’s not surprising that LDS ‘aligns’ with RealLove, or is it that RealLove was shaped by LDS maybe? He has studied (self-study) psychology and different therapy methods, as well as 12-step programs. He would most definitely have studied Joseph Smith and how he managed to captivate people into believing that god spoke to him – and may have been inspired by him. There are certainly a lot of correlations between the two. Having been a druggie himself, and knowing what this does to a human being he would be no stranger to how easy it is to build dependence, co-dependance and addiction in people – and of how easy it is to manipulate and control those who are addicted and dependant. No self-respecting, qualified and professionally registered life coach or therapist would ever consider the notion of having their clients or patients being dependant, reliant, co-dependant or addicted to them!! RealLove is a mix of many different things thrown together, and almost like a reverse-engineering process it works backwards from what the goal is to be achieved. The goal is control, domination, over others by way of worship, adulation and praise by them of him. He knows first-hand (as he was a drug addict himself) how drug dependency and addiction work and how malleable people become and so a system is devised based on all the behavioural changes necessary to create such – dependence, co-dependance, addiction, infantilisation – which are powerful tools in which to achieve the goals.
People can be fooled into switching off their bullshit radar and submitting to RealLove by all manner and means. One of which is to mock, shame and ridicule the questioner, the unbeliever who challenges the validity of RealLove and any other aspect about it that appears suspicious, by being hurtful or saying something demeaning. This could be telling you that your parents never loved you. Of course, anyone who had a great childhood would challenge this statement, stating that there are times in our childhood where we might not like what our parents do or say, but that is all part of growing up. If you respond with the slightest bit of annoyance, irritation, offence or anger at being told things that are not true this is followed by statements like “Wow! There you are, see, you really NEED RealLove”. The more you defend your stance the more that keep on with similar statements which belittle, make us feel ashamed about defending ourself etc. until we wobble in our own self-belief, identity etc. Don’t buy in to this tactic – it is a deliberate ploy to get you to react in this way in order to prove that RealLove is the magical antidote for your life. When they start to say things like this you can be assured that this is the start of them slowly and carefully winding in the invisible reel that is now in place and pulling you in – gradually stripping your sense of self-worth, self-esteem, self-identity, self-concept, self-confidence and self-belief along with all of your values, morals and principles. Everything in your whole world will be shook up, pulled apart and destroyed to the point that you then become totally and wholly reliant on RealLove to function emotionally – hence the advice to ‘immerse’ in RealLove doctrine, every day, 24/7, in every possible way (books, groups, courses, seminars, phone calls, conference calls, videos, video chats etc.) – in order to become a very different person at the end, an ‘infantilised zombie-clone’ dependent on RealLove and totally reliant on the ‘Virtual Cult Commune’ of RealLove. This is why it is important to find out about this cult as early on as possible, and help people to see the light and not get involved – as this will be the outcome if they don’t stop.
Guru Baer really knows how to manipulate people when they are asking questions that show people are averse to RealLove, not taken by it, and are questioning his doctrine, can see through it, are sceptical etc. And as with all narcissistic and psychopathic personalities any questioning of them is directed back to the questioner in a critical, demeaning, mocking and shaming way. He will not take any form of criticism. Further, there is never any real or genuine answer to anything asked either. Be aware of this – the more you stick around the more nasty it will get. The more weak or confused minds will not be able to speak up and challenge and so will be left confused, and very often accepting that they are the ‘stupid one’ for not getting stuff. This is especially so when RealLove adherents in a Group setting state that they themselves once said the same things, challenged things too, and were “just like you are now”, but amazingly they stuck with it and now their life is totally wonderful – and all because of RealLove. If the person being told this is in admiration of the person saying this or identifies with them, then they may be easily swayed and fooled to believe in RealLove. Reality Check = This ‘wonderful’ they talk of is without any family (as they have been rejected and pushed aside), without a partner (as they have been told to separate or divorce them), without any friends (as they have been told that they’ll be splashed by them) and work colleagues (they too are not good either) – all since their submission to RealLove. The only people in their life are those ‘in’ or ‘doing’ RealLove only. They are in fear of people outside of RealLove. Work that one out, as that does not seem to be wonderful. At this point it should be easy for any outsider to see that this looks and indeed is a cult. It does not look like a good thing at all. For me, I am reminded of a British Children’s television series from the 1970’s called ‘Children of the Stones’. It was a very scary program at the time, especially when people had been ‘converted’ and had lost their mind and personal identity, which was seen when people were transformed from being animated and normal to being vacant and over-happy, smiling constantly and saying ‘Happy Day’. RealLove reminded me of this show, and upon watching it recently I have no reason to change my mind.
One of the key things that RealLove claims to do is to ‘eliminate fear’ from our lives. From what I have seen, it cannot eliminate fear because it is a part of the human condition – wired into our consciousness for biological (human) and spiritual (soul) experience for life in general. Fear is a critical part of the polarity experience of life itself and is needed in many different ways. We can only but learn to acknowledge it and learn to control it mindful living, thinking and being. Yet, RealLove creates a whole new fear – fear of everybody not doing RealLove (which is most of the world, sadly). The worst thing that RealLove people can do is to engage with non-RealLove people, especially those who have questions, challenges or disagreements about it. Adherents are taught to walk away from any such situation where they may actually learn the truth about RealLove and exactly what they have got themselves into. By engaging with someone ‘against’ RealLove this is called going onto the ‘field of death’. They might actually learn something if they didn’t walk away, which is a clever ploy by Guru Baer to keep his adherents focused on him and his ideals. We all can, and would indeed walk away from a serious, angry, heated, vehement, angry, negative prolonged argument or row, and especially when people have got to the stage of name-calling and being downright nasty. But not just because people are seeking truth, and someone wants to help them understand that truth. That is just being stupid – as nobody learns anything. But maybe that is how it is supposed to be!
People fully immersed in RealLove change considerably. Those people on this thread and the other one know this only too well, what RealLove is capable of doing to people you love. You can notice a significant change because they will not be able to engage with anyone not doing RealLove at all – after they have rejected their spouse, family, friends and co-workers that is. They will rarely make any contact with people they once knew and who had a great part in their life. It will be as though they have passed on, disappeared almost. They will be unable to hold a conversation, and if they do it will ONLY be about RealLove and nothing else, or just RealLove proselytizing. They will look almost dead and without emotion in the behaviour and outlook – practically a zombie – the lights look as though they are on, but the electricity is cut off. And when someone is speaking, behaving and thinking the same as all the other RealLove adherents, then they have become a clone – if you see them with another RealLove adherent you’ll be able to notice this very clearly. I can only say that all I see are RealLove Zombie-Clones believing that the rest of the non-RealLove world is bad, negative, dangerous and full of fear. And the sad thing is that they don’t even realise they are being like this!
For family members, partners, friends etc. this is devastating to watch happen – unfolding week after week and you are unable to stop it or reach through to them. But as each person tries to reach in and help, they are in turn rejected too, until all people in their life eventually ‘leave them be’. They have made their choice – so it seems! But have they? Once all the people of the ‘old life’ and the ‘old you’ are pushed out and rejected the RealLove Zombie-Clone identity adopts its ‘new’ and ‘real’ ‘loving RealLove family’ as their true family. This is how cults work, but they will not see or believe this – because after all, they are not living on a compound or in a commune, and Greg Baer writes and publishes books, and is Mormon leader. However, from the RealLove perspective, once the person has pushed everyone in their life away (including their own children in some cases), they are much more easily controlled and manipulated. The ‘Them&Us’ indoctrination is finally sealed. They have their ‘Virtual Reality RealLove Cult Commune’, their Guru Greg Baer, other people in RL (who really know how to love people unconditionally, apparently) and they fully believe that they are being saved, helped, healed and are learning how to be happy. They are now GONE. Too late.
What the adherent does not realise when they have got to this stage is that they have become boxed-in. They are in a cube that is inescapable, trapped in RealLove ideology. What a dilemma.
Floor = RealLove Principles (the new life + fear of not being able to live these principles without the support of RealLove)
Ceiling = No RealLove Principles (fear of the old way of life, how things used to be, old behaviours)
Front Wall = Living Life the RealLove way in the Virtual Reality Commune (fear of not being happy if they don’t follow things through)
Back Wall = Life without the RealLove Virtual Reality Commune (fear of fear, fear of making mistakes, fear of not being loved)
Left Wall = RealLove perceived as unconditional love (fear not being loved or feeling loved again if they don’t do RealLove, submit, immerse, absorb it etc.)
Right Wall = Conditional love (fear that the rest of the world loves only conditionally and that unconditional love does not exist outside of RealLove)
It is only the world reliant upon the false and fake ‘imitation’ love called ‘RealLove © Trademark Registered’ that has love running out leaving people to feel psychologically ‘empty and afraid’. The true love of the universe does NOT do this. You purchase more and more RealLove when you get on empty, but there is no need to do this in real life – as love lasts and is eternal. Psychologically, RealLove adherents have their minds controlled and manipulated to believe that love runs out, when you give it to others. People go to a group session believing they are going to meet up with a group of people who will just be loving, kind and supportive to one another when in fact they are going to end up being a shadow of their self – in fear of loving running out, in fear of people, reliant on a virtual reality cult commune to sustain them, doing weird things that adults in their right mind just don’t do, cut themselves off from all the people and loved one’s in their life, and believing a whole load of tripe made up by a Guru figure who believes he channels from god, has been given the only source of love from god and is the sole and only person (organisation) to go to, to get properly loved. This is the reality of what RealLove © Trademark Registered does. And if you don’t join and submit to the whole thing – you will eventually, as they will keep working on you until you do. There are perverted men who know what is going on and have clocked they are using mind-control techniques etc. but turn a blind eye to it. Why? Because they love being touched and fondled and hugged and all that closeness with the women in the groups – as well as to lie in the arms of a female (mummy) and be held like a baby. Many perverted men, as well as many frustrated women waiting to be told when they are ‘good enough’ to start dating one day (obviously, they have to be ‘perfected’ by RealLove first, or should I mean ‘altered’). RealLove really is one helluva crazy world!!
Finally, if we want to be loving, any of us can do this at any time and in any circumstances as many times as we choose every single day. Being loving is a ‘selfless’ and ‘spontaneous’ act. RealLove on the other hand is NOT either of these things, but it does make people FORGET and IGNORE all the love they do have in their life, have had. They are so stuck in Guru Greg’s principles that they miss out on a multitude of acts of love everyday. But as one famous Guru once said “The individual cannot be sacrificed for anything” . I hope my story has helped in some small way.
People don’t just get involved with a Guru – they become absorbed into the entire social scene and dynamics that condenses and revolves around the Guru, in this case Greg Baer and his RealLove. Given time, as explained in the last three parts of this post, a person continuing to be involved with RealLove©Trademark Registered, will eventually be lost to their family and friends – for good. The person will be pulled into a culture of such total and blind commitment to the idea and practice of leading a whole new life through totally embracing the demi-God/Guru Greg Baer’s vision of ‘RealLove’. That devotion will mean that there can be NO deviation from it, no life outside of his RealLove principles. In fact this is something unthinkable – fearful even. So how, do you ask, does a seemingly rational and well-rounded person become so enthralled in following a leader, so much so that they end up dismissing entirely the reality of the world itself (the non-RealLove world/them) to follow one man’s vision (RealLove/us)? At some point it will all crash down them and everyone else involved in the cult – maybe not all at once (like the compound communes of the past), but one by one until all of them can see that there really was no paradise, no wonderful fear-free life, no road to healing, no perfect unconditionally loving existence. Without the Guru, Greg Baer’s words and guidance, his weekly video chats, his lap to sit on etc. there is no meaning for them to withdraw from the temptations of the big, bad, scary, mean, fearful, frightening world which is why they are reminded every week that RealLove is the best thing for them and that they should feel sorry for and pity all who are not doing or in RealLove as those people are just ‘in pain’, ‘believing the lies’ or ‘insane’. People once enthralled into full submission to RealLove, believe they are living on an island on unconditional love in a universe of hostility all around them. Everything outside of RealLove, and all people not ‘doing’ RealLove are perceived as hostile. While the RL adherent may not say this directly to anyone’s face or aloud in any way – they DO think it, and think it often!! While you are impassioning them to leave RL and trying to get them to see sense, they will just remain quiet while in their head they are feeling sorry for you and forgiving your hostile ways (your non-belief). [This is quite similar in some respects to JW’s, who most of the time merely ‘tolerate’ the damned to hell non-believers].
Without Guru Greg Baer there is very little substance to RealLove. However, what I can see has happened is that modern technology has allowed him to create what is basically a ‘Virtual Reality Commune’. People think that by doing RealLove that it is life coaching – but you don’t ‘do’ life coaching, you get life coaching. You don’t worship your life coach, leave your spouse, disconnect from your family and friends on the advice of a life coach – and then totally absorb yourself in all the life coach has to say, and have only his/her other clients as your friends. That sounds odd and ridiculous – because life coaching does not work like this. Neither does Counselling or therapy work like this either. People doing RealLove also speak of themselves as being ‘in RealLove’ which is an odd thing to say about a supposed life coaching arrangement. In counselling, therapy and life coaching there is the legal requirement to confidentiality. Thus, clients do not need to meet or be put in touch with each other, and neither are they expected to hang-out and share their selves and their secrets on secret social media pages. But time and time again RealLove adherents will categorically state that RealLove is not a cult because it is not running as a commune or compound and because Greg Baer has printed books. Yet, RealLove is most definitely a ‘Virtual Cult Commune’ in every sense of the word. Everyone tunes into Guru Greg’s chat each week, and excitedly shares with each other what Greg spoke about and what they should now do blahblahblah. The groups bring members together, and the seminars and weekends bring people from farther afield together. The nightly telephone conference calls keep everyone under control with the same double-binds and cult loaded language spouted night after night – keeping anyone who begins to doubt, well and truly from leaving. Meanwhile, Guru Greg merely sits in his favourite armchair and doesn’t have to exert much energy to keep all his adherents under his control – all without having to leave home and lift a finger. Coaches and wise people do all the work, and he just reaps the profits and enjoys being idol-worshipped. None of the adherents have much of a ‘normal’ life anymore, so technology connecting them all, is all that they have to feel the sense of community and togetherness. People stuck in RealLove have lost all desire to determine their own future without Greg Baer’s and RealLove’s guidance. No one needs a church or a religion when you have a Guru like Greg Baer, for in his follower’s eyes he is ultimate truth, and whatever he says is right or wrong is right or wrong despite what you may personally feel otherwise. There is however, no group process in place as well as no collective worth. There is no debate, challenge or counter-opinions against anything Guru Baer says – the power is at the top and that is where it remains.
Upon reading several books on cults I can see very clearly how Greg Baer created his RealLove – just the same way as others. By creating a hotch-potch of various different beliefs all thrown together in exactly the same way as the founders of Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Scientology, Lifespring, Universal Church (moonies), est, Landmark and so on……. Baer studied religions and spiritual beliefs, and has taken bits of different religious and spiritual concepts and woven them in to his RL (obviously, using LDS methods quite extensively) thus it’s not surprising that LDS ‘aligns’ with RealLove, or is it that RealLove was shaped by LDS maybe? He has studied (self-study) psychology and different therapy methods, as well as 12-step programs. He would most definitely have studied Joseph Smith and how he managed to captivate people into believing that god spoke to him – and may have been inspired by him. There are certainly a lot of correlations between the two. Having been a druggie himself, and knowing what this does to a human being he would be no stranger to how easy it is to build dependence, co-dependance and addiction in people – and of how easy it is to manipulate and control those who are addicted and dependant. No self-respecting, qualified and professionally registered life coach or therapist would ever consider the notion of having their clients or patients being dependant, reliant, co-dependant or addicted to them!! RealLove is a mix of many different things thrown together, and almost like a reverse-engineering process it works backwards from what the goal is to be achieved. The goal is control, domination, over others by way of worship, adulation and praise by them of him. He knows first-hand (as he was a drug addict himself) how drug dependency and addiction work and how malleable people become and so a system is devised based on all the behavioural changes necessary to create such – dependence, co-dependance, addiction, infantilisation – which are powerful tools in which to achieve the goals.
People can be fooled into switching off their bullshit radar and submitting to RealLove by all manner and means. One of which is to mock, shame and ridicule the questioner, the unbeliever who challenges the validity of RealLove and any other aspect about it that appears suspicious, by being hurtful or saying something demeaning. This could be telling you that your parents never loved you. Of course, anyone who had a great childhood would challenge this statement, stating that there are times in our childhood where we might not like what our parents do or say, but that is all part of growing up. If you respond with the slightest bit of annoyance, irritation, offence or anger at being told things that are not true this is followed by statements like “Wow! There you are, see, you really NEED RealLove”. The more you defend your stance the more that keep on with similar statements which belittle, make us feel ashamed about defending ourself etc. until we wobble in our own self-belief, identity etc. Don’t buy in to this tactic – it is a deliberate ploy to get you to react in this way in order to prove that RealLove is the magical antidote for your life. When they start to say things like this you can be assured that this is the start of them slowly and carefully winding in the invisible reel that is now in place and pulling you in – gradually stripping your sense of self-worth, self-esteem, self-identity, self-concept, self-confidence and self-belief along with all of your values, morals and principles. Everything in your whole world will be shook up, pulled apart and destroyed to the point that you then become totally and wholly reliant on RealLove to function emotionally – hence the advice to ‘immerse’ in RealLove doctrine, every day, 24/7, in every possible way (books, groups, courses, seminars, phone calls, conference calls, videos, video chats etc.) – in order to become a very different person at the end, an ‘infantilised zombie-clone’ dependent on RealLove and totally reliant on the ‘Virtual Cult Commune’ of RealLove. This is why it is important to find out about this cult as early on as possible, and help people to see the light and not get involved – as this will be the outcome if they don’t stop.
Guru Baer really knows how to manipulate people when they are asking questions that show people are averse to RealLove, not taken by it, and are questioning his doctrine, can see through it, are sceptical etc. And as with all narcissistic and psychopathic personalities any questioning of them is directed back to the questioner in a critical, demeaning, mocking and shaming way. He will not take any form of criticism. Further, there is never any real or genuine answer to anything asked either. Be aware of this – the more you stick around the more nasty it will get. The more weak or confused minds will not be able to speak up and challenge and so will be left confused, and very often accepting that they are the ‘stupid one’ for not getting stuff. This is especially so when RealLove adherents in a Group setting state that they themselves once said the same things, challenged things too, and were “just like you are now”, but amazingly they stuck with it and now their life is totally wonderful – and all because of RealLove. If the person being told this is in admiration of the person saying this or identifies with them, then they may be easily swayed and fooled to believe in RealLove. Reality Check = This ‘wonderful’ they talk of is without any family (as they have been rejected and pushed aside), without a partner (as they have been told to separate or divorce them), without any friends (as they have been told that they’ll be splashed by them) and work colleagues (they too are not good either) – all since their submission to RealLove. The only people in their life are those ‘in’ or ‘doing’ RealLove only. They are in fear of people outside of RealLove. Work that one out, as that does not seem to be wonderful. At this point it should be easy for any outsider to see that this looks and indeed is a cult. It does not look like a good thing at all. For me, I am reminded of a British Children’s television series from the 1970’s called ‘Children of the Stones’. It was a very scary program at the time, especially when people had been ‘converted’ and had lost their mind and personal identity, which was seen when people were transformed from being animated and normal to being vacant and over-happy, smiling constantly and saying ‘Happy Day’. RealLove reminded me of this show, and upon watching it recently I have no reason to change my mind.
One of the key things that RealLove claims to do is to ‘eliminate fear’ from our lives. From what I have seen, it cannot eliminate fear because it is a part of the human condition – wired into our consciousness for biological (human) and spiritual (soul) experience for life in general. Fear is a critical part of the polarity experience of life itself and is needed in many different ways. We can only but learn to acknowledge it and learn to control it mindful living, thinking and being. Yet, RealLove creates a whole new fear – fear of everybody not doing RealLove (which is most of the world, sadly). The worst thing that RealLove people can do is to engage with non-RealLove people, especially those who have questions, challenges or disagreements about it. Adherents are taught to walk away from any such situation where they may actually learn the truth about RealLove and exactly what they have got themselves into. By engaging with someone ‘against’ RealLove this is called going onto the ‘field of death’. They might actually learn something if they didn’t walk away, which is a clever ploy by Guru Baer to keep his adherents focused on him and his ideals. We all can, and would indeed walk away from a serious, angry, heated, vehement, angry, negative prolonged argument or row, and especially when people have got to the stage of name-calling and being downright nasty. But not just because people are seeking truth, and someone wants to help them understand that truth. That is just being stupid – as nobody learns anything. But maybe that is how it is supposed to be!
People fully immersed in RealLove change considerably. Those people on this thread and the other one know this only too well, what RealLove is capable of doing to people you love. You can notice a significant change because they will not be able to engage with anyone not doing RealLove at all – after they have rejected their spouse, family, friends and co-workers that is. They will rarely make any contact with people they once knew and who had a great part in their life. It will be as though they have passed on, disappeared almost. They will be unable to hold a conversation, and if they do it will ONLY be about RealLove and nothing else, or just RealLove proselytizing. They will look almost dead and without emotion in the behaviour and outlook – practically a zombie – the lights look as though they are on, but the electricity is cut off. And when someone is speaking, behaving and thinking the same as all the other RealLove adherents, then they have become a clone – if you see them with another RealLove adherent you’ll be able to notice this very clearly. I can only say that all I see are RealLove Zombie-Clones believing that the rest of the non-RealLove world is bad, negative, dangerous and full of fear. And the sad thing is that they don’t even realise they are being like this!
For family members, partners, friends etc. this is devastating to watch happen – unfolding week after week and you are unable to stop it or reach through to them. But as each person tries to reach in and help, they are in turn rejected too, until all people in their life eventually ‘leave them be’. They have made their choice – so it seems! But have they? Once all the people of the ‘old life’ and the ‘old you’ are pushed out and rejected the RealLove Zombie-Clone identity adopts its ‘new’ and ‘real’ ‘loving RealLove family’ as their true family. This is how cults work, but they will not see or believe this – because after all, they are not living on a compound or in a commune, and Greg Baer writes and publishes books, and is Mormon leader. However, from the RealLove perspective, once the person has pushed everyone in their life away (including their own children in some cases), they are much more easily controlled and manipulated. The ‘Them&Us’ indoctrination is finally sealed. They have their ‘Virtual Reality RealLove Cult Commune’, their Guru Greg Baer, other people in RL (who really know how to love people unconditionally, apparently) and they fully believe that they are being saved, helped, healed and are learning how to be happy. They are now GONE. Too late.
What the adherent does not realise when they have got to this stage is that they have become boxed-in. They are in a cube that is inescapable, trapped in RealLove ideology. What a dilemma.
Floor = RealLove Principles (the new life + fear of not being able to live these principles without the support of RealLove)
Ceiling = No RealLove Principles (fear of the old way of life, how things used to be, old behaviours)
Front Wall = Living Life the RealLove way in the Virtual Reality Commune (fear of not being happy if they don’t follow things through)
Back Wall = Life without the RealLove Virtual Reality Commune (fear of fear, fear of making mistakes, fear of not being loved)
Left Wall = RealLove perceived as unconditional love (fear not being loved or feeling loved again if they don’t do RealLove, submit, immerse, absorb it etc.)
Right Wall = Conditional love (fear that the rest of the world loves only conditionally and that unconditional love does not exist outside of RealLove)
It is only the world reliant upon the false and fake ‘imitation’ love called ‘RealLove © Trademark Registered’ that has love running out leaving people to feel psychologically ‘empty and afraid’. The true love of the universe does NOT do this. You purchase more and more RealLove when you get on empty, but there is no need to do this in real life – as love lasts and is eternal. Psychologically, RealLove adherents have their minds controlled and manipulated to believe that love runs out, when you give it to others. People go to a group session believing they are going to meet up with a group of people who will just be loving, kind and supportive to one another when in fact they are going to end up being a shadow of their self – in fear of loving running out, in fear of people, reliant on a virtual reality cult commune to sustain them, doing weird things that adults in their right mind just don’t do, cut themselves off from all the people and loved one’s in their life, and believing a whole load of tripe made up by a Guru figure who believes he channels from god, has been given the only source of love from god and is the sole and only person (organisation) to go to, to get properly loved. This is the reality of what RealLove © Trademark Registered does. And if you don’t join and submit to the whole thing – you will eventually, as they will keep working on you until you do. There are perverted men who know what is going on and have clocked they are using mind-control techniques etc. but turn a blind eye to it. Why? Because they love being touched and fondled and hugged and all that closeness with the women in the groups – as well as to lie in the arms of a female (mummy) and be held like a baby. Many perverted men, as well as many frustrated women waiting to be told when they are ‘good enough’ to start dating one day (obviously, they have to be ‘perfected’ by RealLove first, or should I mean ‘altered’). RealLove really is one helluva crazy world!!
Finally, if we want to be loving, any of us can do this at any time and in any circumstances as many times as we choose every single day. Being loving is a ‘selfless’ and ‘spontaneous’ act. RealLove on the other hand is NOT either of these things, but it does make people FORGET and IGNORE all the love they do have in their life, have had. They are so stuck in Guru Greg’s principles that they miss out on a multitude of acts of love everyday. But as one famous Guru once said “The individual cannot be sacrificed for anything” . I hope my story has helped in some small way.