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Re: Can really people recover fully from cults?

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Speaking from my own personal experience, I dunno. Aside from endless pointless argument about what recover is/was/may be, there will always be aftershocks and emotional landmines that hit you without warning, each with it's own level of severity. I was 2 1/2 years in an pseudo-religious organization that used all the classic mind control techniques and got out 35 years ago. Just the other night I woke from a classic night terror of being back IN AGAIN. Drenched in sweat and hyperventilating, I bolted from bed and slammed the lights on. My dog was in the far corner of the room whimpering out of fear of the severity of my reaction. It was only when she could see I was returned to my senses that she would approach me.

Once these dreams would occur nightly for weeks at a time. Now, maybe once every few months. But I do not JOIN anything requiring any form of commitment beyond membership dues. I have acquaintances, but few friends. And I am incredibly sensitive to lack of sincerity in people (local politicians of all stripe cringe when they see me).

So to talk of recovery, how do we even measure it? We are a sum total of the lifetime's experiences, who is to say any of the decisions today are not based on the ever expanding ripples of prior mind control?

As for me, the lyrics from "Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who resonate:
"I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again"

Until I get to the last two lines of the song, and I fear I am just as amenable to mind control now as I ever was:
"Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss"

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