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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity

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Thanks, G.
A timely question indeed:

“TUCO ASKS THE QUESTION: Is Tulsi Gabbard really concerned about the welfare of all humanity, or is she only interested in the money and power?


I sent the T.Gabbard article to another ex-er and I also asked them what they supposed Butler did when he got that txt?

This was their reply:

"You know the real scenario would have gone something like this-
Butler 8.07am (time of original text.) Butler does have a cell phone because he was seen pacing outside his home talking on the phone- this was when Flash had bombed the cult forum with intel on him-
Butler gets text- he calls his secretary to arrange to get Butler off the island now. Perhaps he has a bunker already on his property, and if he doesn't he will have one soon.
He's yelling "get Tulsi on the phone and get her to find out what the hell is going on". Which is the only real reason she was able to find out within 12 mins and become the hero of the day.
They then saw it as a massive publicity stunt to garner some much needed press coverage. Tulsi (note ear piece in her ear), goes onto ABC, Meet the Press, CNN and repeats whatever is being fed into her ear.
She is doing exactly with President Trump what she did with President Obama. Criticize him publicly, telling him what he should be doing- And on that note she is criticizing the USA as well.

The same arguments were spoken by Butler's father many years ago and Rick Reed parroted the same rhetoric when he went against Inouye.

Yes, move over Rodman, Tulsi Gabbard is coming to make peace with Kim Jong-un.

So hypocritical considering she follows orders from a Dictator in her own life.
We never saw her as an activist speaking out when the USA was overthrowing Sadam Hussein, or ousting Gadhafi- she was too busy chanting on her beads.”
End quote.

So, you now have an image of what a devotee of Butler’s will do in a crisis.
It begs the query, what will Tulsi do?
I think we all know the answer.


TUCO ASKS THE QUESTION: Is Tulsi Gabbard really concerned about the welfare of all humanity, or is she only interested in a specific person in humanity, the only person she answers to- Jagat guru Chris Butler.


Transcript for Hawaiian congresswoman calls false missile alarm 'an epic failure of leadership' ABC news:

That was the scene of panic in Hawaii yesterday after the state emergency system sent out this alert to mobile phones statewide. Ballistic missile threat inbound to Hawaii. Seek immediate shelter. This is not a drill. That was a false alarm. Someone pushed the the wrong button. There was no missile threat. It took a full 38 minutes for the state to issue a civil merge message retracting the alert.
Congresswoman Tulsi gabbard joins us. 38 minutes for the state to retract the false alarm. It only took you 12. You issued this tweet. "Hawaii, this is a false alarm. There is no incoming miss toll Hawaii. I have confirmed with officials. There is no incoming missile.”

How did you get the truth, walk us through what happened.
"You can only imagine the panic, the terror, the chaos and confusion that ensued when over a million people in Hawaii and many visitors visiting Hawaii got that alert on their cell phones. Now understanding as they literally just have minutes. Taking this threat seriously. They have minutes to say good-bye to their loved ones. To find their loved ones. To try to find some kind of shelter somewhere, which, there are no designated nuclear bomb snerlts Hawaii. I went through the same thing when I got that message on my phone. Wondering where my family is. What they were doing. I called Hawaii officials and state of defense and asked them what is going on here? I was told right away there is no incoming missile threat. Someone pushed the wrong button. It was an inadvertent mistake. Why did it take them so long to retract it? That's what we're trying to get to the bottom of. It is unacceptable. The fact that it took so long for them to put out that second message, to calm people. To allay their fears that this was a mistake. A false alarm, is something that has to be fixed, corrected with people held accountable."

Are you confident this won't happen again?

"We have to do everything we can to make sure it doesn't. There is so much at stake. I got messages from people all across Hawaii. Throughout the day yesterday. Just detailing what they went through. A father said his two children were in two different locations. He had to sit there and think, which of his children he was going choose to spend the last minutes of his life with. There were so many people who went through this stark reality that I hope the rest of the country, I hope people in Washington, leaders in Washington pay attention to that this threat of nuclear war, nuclear attack, is not a game. This is real. And this is what the people of Hawaii just went through yesterday morning.”

That leads to the question now of what should done about it. Do you believe that President Trump should be speaking directly to the leader of North Korea?

"Absolutely and immediately. This is something I have been calling for for a long time. I've been talking about the seriousness of this threat posed to the people of Hawaii and this country, coming from North Korea. The people of Hawaii are paying the price now for decades of failed leadership in this country of failure to directly negotiate. To prevent us from getting to this point where we're dealing with this threat today. Setting unreal itselfic preconditions. I have been calling for President Trump to sit across the table from Kim Jong-un without preconditions. Work out the differences. Figure out a way to build this pathway towards denuclearization. Because there is so much at stake. The people of Hawaii recognized this yesterday, experienced it personally. The leaders of this country need to experience that same visceral understanding of how lives are at stake. North Korea Kim Jong-un says he's not going to give up his nuclear arsenal. Perhaps they could lead to talks of a freeze.”

But given that, do we need to bolster the defenses of Hawaii?

“We absolutely need to bolster our ballistic missile defense system specifically for Hawaii and for this country. That's something on the Arms Services committee that I have been and continue to work on doing. It think it's important as how we talk about how important it is that Trump directly negotiates with North Korea. We've got to understand why Kim Jong-un is continually saying he's not going to give up his nuclear weapons. Our country's history of regime change wars has led countries like North Korea to develop and hold on to these nuclear weapons because they see it as the only deterant against regime change. And this is what it is important for President Trump to recognize it is critical we change our policies of regime change wars, to provide that credible guarantee that the United States is not going in to topple the north Korean regime so these conversations can begin towards denuclearization."

Just to be clear you are saying that Kim Jong-un's nuclear arsenal is our fault?

"What I'm saying is that Democrat and Republican administrations for decades, going back over 20 years, failed to recognize the seriousness of this threat, failed to remove it and we know that North Korea has these nuclear weapons because they see how the United States in Libya, for example, guaranteed Gadhafi, we're not going after you, you should get rid of your nuclear weapons. He did. Then we went and led an attack that toppled Gadhafi. Launching Libya into chaos that we still seen the results of today. North Korea sees what we did in Iraq with Saddam hussein with those false reports of weapons of mass destruction. And now seeing in Iran, how President Trump is decertifying a nuclear deal that prevented Iran from developing their nuclear weapons, threatening the agreement that was made. We have to understand that yes, North Korea is holding on to these nuclear weapons because they think it is their only protection from the United States coming in and doing to them what the United States has done to so many countries throughout history. Was it a mistake for the United States to take out Gadhafi and Hussein? It was. Absolutely.”

Congresswoman Gabbard, Thank you for your time this morning. “Thank you.”

abcnews.go.com

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