Timetoact. I was at the party you threw after Don’s wedding, the same owedding you performed a belly dance at. It was an incredibly loving event and your dance contributed to it. When I met you my feeling was I was meeting someone who was deeply angry in that moment. I have read your thread and you come across in print as a very reasonable and considered person.
I have been immersed in the fabric of this process for 17 years; I came in as you left. I stayed the distance and overcame many hurdles where I trusted others above and beyond my mistrust, my mind, that more often than not came from my victim blame consciousness.
Though you come across as very reasonable, looking at the bigger picture of it all and like you are doing people a favor by obstructing Don’s work, that has been life enhancing for me, perhaps even life saving. The simple principles of contraction and expansion come into play here. The universe being in a state of expansion supports love. Love expands, gratitude expands, and people can feel it in their heart. Your post is painfully contracting to the sensitivity of my finely tuned body. Painfully tight. Knowing this work for many years longer than you experienced it I feel your post paint’s a very selective picture that poisons the good name of an incredibly loving man. The most loving I have ever met and can in turn have the effect preventing people from accessing his incredible work.
I am in no doubt about my own version of the chastity belt. It is part and parcel of growing up in the contorted teachings of the Catholic Church in Ireland, just look at the child abuse that was systematic. Don’s work helped to heal so much of the damage this conditioning did at a cellular level to us all. I am sure it was pointed out to me where I took on these limitations and I used it as insight to break away from them. The limitations that confused me in relation to my sexual energy that were life depressing. I didn't take it personally. I used it to grow and not make myself a victim. I trusted people that had been in the process longer than me and could feel what I could not because I wanted to get to where they were which I really admired. Because I stayed the distance I got to that sensitivity level. This allows me to help people. That is what it’s all about and what Don’s about.
Going far in a spiritual process for me requires complete trust in the universe. I thankfully always took responsibility for my feelings in relation to Don. I believed he had a personal vendetta against me when I first went to his groups. It was about two to three years before I was capable of seeing him for who he is, an enlightened soul. I saw many, many people allow their minds and disconnection to override what was plain for all to see and make it about Don. It was their get out clause from facing their fears and mistrust and moving deeper into liberation from mind based pain.
Within the people who dedicated themselves to this training, it was obvious to all that Don’s decision to marry Jennifer Hanson, who was to become his wife for 16 years, was your tipping point. I have this on first hand information from many people who I deeply trust and their life view. It was obvious to all. That you have decided to make your self a victim of your intimate relationship with Don and you still do. This was far from the view of many others. Often instead of dealing with our abandonment and loss our minds make ourselves the justified victim and therefore remain in anger that motivates persecutions, vindictive campaigns against another and in this case Don.
By labeling what is happening here from a very mature perspective, 17 in a process, am I trying to pull you back into the group? Or am I calling a spade a spade like the other people tried to do with you when looking to help you see the limitation of where your mind was going with it all once Don decided to marry Jen. People that could see that you were going in to a position that you are still in 17 years later. People that considered you a close friend. And friends were deep in this process. We were like a family in a beautiful way.
The picture of people trying to pull you back when you pulled away suggests a “cult” like feel to this incredible and beautiful liberation process. In 17 years I have never seen Don interfere with anyones decision in relation to what they do. He may express his truth to people from his heart but he never defines himself around peoples decisions on their participation, masterfully. I observed this many, many times and learned from it. TCM is a liberating process if you go all the way and few have, the ego is designed to survive and is pretty clever at keeping itself alive and creating realities that suit the covering over of the deeper feelings of trauma that some choose to never explore.
Another misleading suggestion in your post is in relation to the Australian women’s suicide which I wrote about in a previous post. Here you suggest that this deceased woman did in fact put it out at a workshop that she was sexually abused but Don didn't entertain it. Therefore suggesting he may be responsible and this moment was the tipping point for her suicide. I was aware second hand about this woman’s background and also aware that it goes deeper than what you mentioned and am pretty sure you know the extra information also. That she was sexually abused, if indeed that was true, could very possibly be the reason that she did commit suicide, the extra information on where that abuse has come from has been left out by you. If you included this extra information, it would make it obvious that it had nothing to do with Don, which to be honest you know well. But hey it’s an opportunity to solidify a complete falsehood.
I didn't comment on it in my original post as it was second hand information to me and I could not stand over it. I was immersed in the workshop dealing with the ramifications, the confusion as mentioned in the thread above, when this all went public and Don was tied into it by peoples opinions of what was possible which in reality had no foundations what so ever.
I was unaware she spoke out in the group but also I was aware of the confidentially of these very vulnerable spaces which you have broken by mentioning this woman’s past. That happened in a space where everyone agreed to confidentiality so people felt free to express things such as what this woman expressed, that they would not elsewhere.
It is also worth pointing out that that there was often 70 + people in those groups and Don had to manage it all, quite a feat. Those days were extraordinarily powerful with often several people getting healing at the same time. The context of how you presented this is selective in the extreme. You also broke the confidentiality of the group where his wife, you and Don were in. Again where is the context of this? Only what you present. It’s lost in your selective editing of the situation that all feels off.
Finally I have a question for you. Did you feel at any stage love for Don? I know first hand that he felt that for you and felt like he had lost a good friend when you went in this direction. Others felt this too. I know that people who know you both and were deeply involved with all aspects of this situation pointed out to you that you were making yourself a victim in this situation. It was obvious to them that you were far from one. (I refer to conversations outside the confidentiality of the group). Far from it, in fact, they saw you as a very willing participant in all aspects of what you played out and for you to present yourself, as a victim of sexual abuse is in reality a severe contortion of what actually happened. They saw two adults in a intimate friendship. You were 28. No spring chicken.
All of us felt the unknowing feelings you speak of many times, Don too I am sure felt this as we forged new ground in breaking away from mind limiting consciousness. He issued an apology to you. The context is again selective and this edited apology is used as justification of his supposed guilt. What a man that he was big enough to apologize for what ever he did apologize for. A man on the same ride as us, the people he helped guide and willing to take responsibility for refining his process as I did and do on my journey. This is why I completely stand up for him. He did not judge me for getting it wrong and that was major for me in building trust in him, time and time again. He did help me to begin to get my life in line and I am eternally grateful for that. For all the obstacles my mind threw up my heart knew the truth of what it was I was doing and Don too. I trained my mind not to go into the negative with him as I had seen so many people get off the path as a result.
He is my teacher and he is my friend and he was your teacher and your friend too. You like to focus on the teacher-pupil relationship to present a picture of he being in a position of power over you that you were somehow a victim of. Instead of the reality everyone else saw of you being in relationship with him. The truth is he was growing as we were and the man you knew 18 years ago has kept growing, as have I.
I for one did not make myself a victim. I could have and I would be in the kind of contraction I feel from your post. I could have jumped off the train several times. That you have gone in this direction is your choice. You have gone in the direction you have but it’s not cool you bring your poison publicly to Don and paint the warped picture you have presented above. I know the man intimately and the person and picture you present is in no way representative of who this man is and is quite frankly a vicious attack on his character. I write this post so people can have a balanced perspective on reality of how many people deeply involved saw this.
You don’t sound angry or vindictive to someone who does not know you or Don but the energy doesn't lie. Your last workshop and involvement with Don Hanson’s work was the day he married someone else. The the bottom line is he chose to marry somebody else other than you. Our minds can create anything and the anger that goes with that holding on has the power to destroy many as it is designed to do here with Don’s reputation in such a delicate field.
I have been immersed in the fabric of this process for 17 years; I came in as you left. I stayed the distance and overcame many hurdles where I trusted others above and beyond my mistrust, my mind, that more often than not came from my victim blame consciousness.
Though you come across as very reasonable, looking at the bigger picture of it all and like you are doing people a favor by obstructing Don’s work, that has been life enhancing for me, perhaps even life saving. The simple principles of contraction and expansion come into play here. The universe being in a state of expansion supports love. Love expands, gratitude expands, and people can feel it in their heart. Your post is painfully contracting to the sensitivity of my finely tuned body. Painfully tight. Knowing this work for many years longer than you experienced it I feel your post paint’s a very selective picture that poisons the good name of an incredibly loving man. The most loving I have ever met and can in turn have the effect preventing people from accessing his incredible work.
I am in no doubt about my own version of the chastity belt. It is part and parcel of growing up in the contorted teachings of the Catholic Church in Ireland, just look at the child abuse that was systematic. Don’s work helped to heal so much of the damage this conditioning did at a cellular level to us all. I am sure it was pointed out to me where I took on these limitations and I used it as insight to break away from them. The limitations that confused me in relation to my sexual energy that were life depressing. I didn't take it personally. I used it to grow and not make myself a victim. I trusted people that had been in the process longer than me and could feel what I could not because I wanted to get to where they were which I really admired. Because I stayed the distance I got to that sensitivity level. This allows me to help people. That is what it’s all about and what Don’s about.
Going far in a spiritual process for me requires complete trust in the universe. I thankfully always took responsibility for my feelings in relation to Don. I believed he had a personal vendetta against me when I first went to his groups. It was about two to three years before I was capable of seeing him for who he is, an enlightened soul. I saw many, many people allow their minds and disconnection to override what was plain for all to see and make it about Don. It was their get out clause from facing their fears and mistrust and moving deeper into liberation from mind based pain.
Within the people who dedicated themselves to this training, it was obvious to all that Don’s decision to marry Jennifer Hanson, who was to become his wife for 16 years, was your tipping point. I have this on first hand information from many people who I deeply trust and their life view. It was obvious to all. That you have decided to make your self a victim of your intimate relationship with Don and you still do. This was far from the view of many others. Often instead of dealing with our abandonment and loss our minds make ourselves the justified victim and therefore remain in anger that motivates persecutions, vindictive campaigns against another and in this case Don.
By labeling what is happening here from a very mature perspective, 17 in a process, am I trying to pull you back into the group? Or am I calling a spade a spade like the other people tried to do with you when looking to help you see the limitation of where your mind was going with it all once Don decided to marry Jen. People that could see that you were going in to a position that you are still in 17 years later. People that considered you a close friend. And friends were deep in this process. We were like a family in a beautiful way.
The picture of people trying to pull you back when you pulled away suggests a “cult” like feel to this incredible and beautiful liberation process. In 17 years I have never seen Don interfere with anyones decision in relation to what they do. He may express his truth to people from his heart but he never defines himself around peoples decisions on their participation, masterfully. I observed this many, many times and learned from it. TCM is a liberating process if you go all the way and few have, the ego is designed to survive and is pretty clever at keeping itself alive and creating realities that suit the covering over of the deeper feelings of trauma that some choose to never explore.
Another misleading suggestion in your post is in relation to the Australian women’s suicide which I wrote about in a previous post. Here you suggest that this deceased woman did in fact put it out at a workshop that she was sexually abused but Don didn't entertain it. Therefore suggesting he may be responsible and this moment was the tipping point for her suicide. I was aware second hand about this woman’s background and also aware that it goes deeper than what you mentioned and am pretty sure you know the extra information also. That she was sexually abused, if indeed that was true, could very possibly be the reason that she did commit suicide, the extra information on where that abuse has come from has been left out by you. If you included this extra information, it would make it obvious that it had nothing to do with Don, which to be honest you know well. But hey it’s an opportunity to solidify a complete falsehood.
I didn't comment on it in my original post as it was second hand information to me and I could not stand over it. I was immersed in the workshop dealing with the ramifications, the confusion as mentioned in the thread above, when this all went public and Don was tied into it by peoples opinions of what was possible which in reality had no foundations what so ever.
I was unaware she spoke out in the group but also I was aware of the confidentially of these very vulnerable spaces which you have broken by mentioning this woman’s past. That happened in a space where everyone agreed to confidentiality so people felt free to express things such as what this woman expressed, that they would not elsewhere.
It is also worth pointing out that that there was often 70 + people in those groups and Don had to manage it all, quite a feat. Those days were extraordinarily powerful with often several people getting healing at the same time. The context of how you presented this is selective in the extreme. You also broke the confidentiality of the group where his wife, you and Don were in. Again where is the context of this? Only what you present. It’s lost in your selective editing of the situation that all feels off.
Finally I have a question for you. Did you feel at any stage love for Don? I know first hand that he felt that for you and felt like he had lost a good friend when you went in this direction. Others felt this too. I know that people who know you both and were deeply involved with all aspects of this situation pointed out to you that you were making yourself a victim in this situation. It was obvious to them that you were far from one. (I refer to conversations outside the confidentiality of the group). Far from it, in fact, they saw you as a very willing participant in all aspects of what you played out and for you to present yourself, as a victim of sexual abuse is in reality a severe contortion of what actually happened. They saw two adults in a intimate friendship. You were 28. No spring chicken.
All of us felt the unknowing feelings you speak of many times, Don too I am sure felt this as we forged new ground in breaking away from mind limiting consciousness. He issued an apology to you. The context is again selective and this edited apology is used as justification of his supposed guilt. What a man that he was big enough to apologize for what ever he did apologize for. A man on the same ride as us, the people he helped guide and willing to take responsibility for refining his process as I did and do on my journey. This is why I completely stand up for him. He did not judge me for getting it wrong and that was major for me in building trust in him, time and time again. He did help me to begin to get my life in line and I am eternally grateful for that. For all the obstacles my mind threw up my heart knew the truth of what it was I was doing and Don too. I trained my mind not to go into the negative with him as I had seen so many people get off the path as a result.
He is my teacher and he is my friend and he was your teacher and your friend too. You like to focus on the teacher-pupil relationship to present a picture of he being in a position of power over you that you were somehow a victim of. Instead of the reality everyone else saw of you being in relationship with him. The truth is he was growing as we were and the man you knew 18 years ago has kept growing, as have I.
I for one did not make myself a victim. I could have and I would be in the kind of contraction I feel from your post. I could have jumped off the train several times. That you have gone in this direction is your choice. You have gone in the direction you have but it’s not cool you bring your poison publicly to Don and paint the warped picture you have presented above. I know the man intimately and the person and picture you present is in no way representative of who this man is and is quite frankly a vicious attack on his character. I write this post so people can have a balanced perspective on reality of how many people deeply involved saw this.
You don’t sound angry or vindictive to someone who does not know you or Don but the energy doesn't lie. Your last workshop and involvement with Don Hanson’s work was the day he married someone else. The the bottom line is he chose to marry somebody else other than you. Our minds can create anything and the anger that goes with that holding on has the power to destroy many as it is designed to do here with Don’s reputation in such a delicate field.