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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity

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No, I did not know that the children in the Butler group do not call their parents Mom or Dad. That idea of calling your parents by their first names was a hippie thing, but in this case I guess that it is another way to maintain control. Why not call Mom, "Hey, Egg Donor, what's for breakfast?" and Dad, "Where are the car keys, Sperm Contributor!" But no, they have to call them by their "krishna" names to trigger the thought stopping indoctrination.

This also seems to be a good way to rationalize why so many children in the cult have multiple half siblings and divorces. After all, parents are only walking uteruses and sperm manufacturing plants. Since, your real parent, husband, friend, is only "Krishna", why not?

I can not fathom what it would be like to grow up in a culture where your parents are focused on otherworldly things and imagining a fantasy relationship with a guru. It is even worse that they force this projection on to their children. It's like raising your family with an imaginary friend. Except that Butler is not as harmless as the character in the movie Harvey

Their is no objective biographical truth in the Butler narrative. It is a projection of the follower's fantasies onto a stranger. It is fiction. But it is not just some shit randomly concocted by wishful thinking. It is a well crafted lie promoted cynically by Butler himself. It is the capricious fancy of Butler and his co-conspirators. It's a nice dream, but with no real substance. This is precisely why Butler has been hiding out for so many years. If followers as far off as Poland or the Philippines, or as close as Hawaii really knew how boring, uninspired, and fearful his real life is - it would shatter all their delusions.

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Anna Freud famously said,
“In our dreams we can have our eggs cooked exactly how we want them, but we can’t eat them.”

But Butler is the one eating their dreams.

Butler is literally and figuratively eating both his followers dreams and their eggs.


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Author Kim Brooks
“Do you think,” I asked another friend, “you can fall in love with someone you don’t actually know?”

He laughed. “Of course,” he said. “I think it’s much, much easier that way.”

So followers willingly serve the fantasy because it is easier to live life with false clarity and self righteousness than to deal with the messy world of truth and personal responsibility. The paradox is that when you grapple with reality, you have an opportunity to gain an unimaginable wisdom, a sense of pleasure and empowerment, and a liberality not accessible to the fanatic.

When you can learn to look at things from multiple perspectives you discover that there is no single solution to any problem. You learn that no one is, nor needs to be infallible to do good in the world. You gain flexibility in your thinking and can truly appreciate different people and cultures. You can even love and communicate with family members that do not believe the same as you do.

You are sadly lacking if you think Butler is some kind of spiritual virtuoso. He is not. There are authentic masters who are purposefully obscured from you. Some don't even offer you a religion or a practice, but whose life examples or deeds stand alone to inspire. They are the ones of whom Shakespeare wrote, What a Piece of Work is Man But Butler is like Q in this clip (but without the Continuum and powers). He is fearful that man will catch on to their true capacities, ambitions, and strength.

Old Chris is afraid that if his followers discover the truth of his ordinariness that they will leave.

And they will.

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From Hamlet

Hamlet:
What a piece of work is a man, how noble in reason, how
infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and
admirable, in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like
a god! the beauty of the world, the paragon of animals—and yet,
to me, what is this quintessence of dust?

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Polonius:
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
Farewell, my blessing season this in thee!

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