Jane Sanford's translation of Krishna's words to Arjuna who refuses to kill his own relatives despite his duty as a general to war against them.
Krishna teaches that the soul is real and passes through successive bodies, the soul never dies and cannot be killed. Bodies are illusory, no more than clothes taken on and off. So, do not mourn.
Krishna's words of compassionate wisdom: Chapter 2 Verse 11
You grieve for those you should not
And yet you talk about wisdom
The truly taught do not mourn the dead or the living.
Now, in the world of Krishna's compassionate wisdom, as taught in the Bhagavad Gita, Justice delayed is justice denied has no meaning.
In Krisna's world, Sri Shim's body is no more than a torn and discarded garment.
We should not mourn for him if we are truly taught.
Well, those of us who are ignorant unenlightened types who mourn our dead
fight like hell for our living and who do believe that justice delayed is justice denied -- we are going to keep yelling:
Justice for Sri Shim!
Now, lets go from Jane Sanford's translation of the Bhagavad Gita and looke at the Bhagavad Gita As It Is.
Here is the cantos quoted above in the version used by Srila Prabhupada, which Butler would have used during his own days in Srila Prabhupada's group.
I do not know if Tulsi uses this translation.
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TRANSLATION
The Blessed Lord said: While speaking learned words,
you are mourning for what is not worthy of grief.
Those who are wise lament neither for the living nor the dead.
PURPORT -- Srila Prabhupada (Chris Butler's guru) wrote this commentary.
What about those of us Americans who do believe that our bodies are important?
What about those of us who have a religious commitment where we experience God as having created matter and the world and who said it was good.
Who works through bodies, who works through history?
And those of us who do not devalue the body and do not believe in reincarnation as the Krishna people do?
We cry
Justice for Sri Shim!
We do not live in cyclical time as the Krishnas do.
We feel ourselves to be in linear time. Congress was created and the constitution and laws written by people who believed in linear time.
Which means court calendars and filing deadlines are important to those of
us who are NOT krishna devotees.
Justice for Sri Shim!
Krishna teaches that the soul is real and passes through successive bodies, the soul never dies and cannot be killed. Bodies are illusory, no more than clothes taken on and off. So, do not mourn.
Krishna's words of compassionate wisdom: Chapter 2 Verse 11
You grieve for those you should not
And yet you talk about wisdom
The truly taught do not mourn the dead or the living.
Now, in the world of Krishna's compassionate wisdom, as taught in the Bhagavad Gita, Justice delayed is justice denied has no meaning.
In Krisna's world, Sri Shim's body is no more than a torn and discarded garment.
We should not mourn for him if we are truly taught.
Well, those of us who are ignorant unenlightened types who mourn our dead
fight like hell for our living and who do believe that justice delayed is justice denied -- we are going to keep yelling:
Justice for Sri Shim!
Now, lets go from Jane Sanford's translation of the Bhagavad Gita and looke at the Bhagavad Gita As It Is.
Here is the cantos quoted above in the version used by Srila Prabhupada, which Butler would have used during his own days in Srila Prabhupada's group.
I do not know if Tulsi uses this translation.
[asitis.com]
TRANSLATION
The Blessed Lord said: While speaking learned words,
you are mourning for what is not worthy of grief.
Those who are wise lament neither for the living nor the dead.
PURPORT -- Srila Prabhupada (Chris Butler's guru) wrote this commentary.
Quote
The Lord at once took the position of the teacher and chastised the student, calling him, indirectly, a fool.
The Lord said, you are talking like a learned man, but you do not know that one who is learned—one who knows what is body and what is soul—
does not lament for any stage of the body, neither in the living nor in the dead condition.
As it will be explained in later chapters, it will be clear that knowledge means to know matter and spirit and the controller of both.
Arjuna argued that religious principles should be given more importance than politics or sociology, but he did not know that knowledge of matter, soul and the Supreme is even more important than religious formularies.
And, because he was lacking in that knowledge, he should not have posed himself as a very learned man.
As he did not happen to be a very learned man, he was consequently lamenting for something which was unworthy of lamentation.
The body is born and is destined to be vanquished today or tomorrow; *therefore the body is not as important as the soul.
One who knows this is actually learned, and for him there is no cause for lamentation, regardless of the condition of the material body.
What about those of us Americans who do believe that our bodies are important?
What about those of us who have a religious commitment where we experience God as having created matter and the world and who said it was good.
Who works through bodies, who works through history?
And those of us who do not devalue the body and do not believe in reincarnation as the Krishna people do?
We cry
Justice for Sri Shim!
We do not live in cyclical time as the Krishnas do.
We feel ourselves to be in linear time. Congress was created and the constitution and laws written by people who believed in linear time.
Which means court calendars and filing deadlines are important to those of
us who are NOT krishna devotees.
Justice for Sri Shim!