There are set ups that TRAIN their disciples to anticipate every possible
objection you have and desensitize themselves to you.
Here is one example that someone did learn about.
Disciples of gurus may possibly be taught to pretend to listen to your concerns while silently chanting mantras.
Perhaps they are trained to chant mantras if they hear anything from you
that comes across as skeptical, or threatens to trigger their own doubts.
This is an example of how products of Werner Erhard's LGAT (Formerly est now Landmark) are trained.
This entire article is well worth reading.
When it comes to Landmark Education Corporation, There's no meeting of the Minds.
Westword/April 24, 1996
By Steve Jackson
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One guru, Muktananda did learn to use methods derived from Lifespring
which in turn was a spin off of Werner Erhard's Est seminars, now known as Landmark Education.
Gurumayi, another guru, reportedly did a meditation that seemed ancient Hindu but that one of the Cult Education message board users identified as derived from a modern trance method called Neurolinguistic Programming.
[forum.culteducation.com]
If you are involved with a disciple of a guru like Muktananda or Gurumayi, you have no way to know if that disciple is capable of empathizing with you.
You have no way to know if that disciple is silently visualizing the guru or silently repeating mantras while pretending to listen to you, while pretending to be present to you when say or do anything that competes with loyalty to the guru.
These gurus operated 15 to 20 years ago.
By now, many more seemingly authentic gurus, Sufi masters and avatars (plus successors of illustrious dead gurus) are on the scene.
And using these powerful techniques so they can monopolize the inner lives of disciples, even teach disciples to pretend to listen to nonbelievers while
practicing inner trance focused on their guru.
In this predicament a guru's slave can seem to be respectful and empathic with friends, loved ones, even listen with seeming concern to skeptics and those who disagree.
But underneath there is no empathy from their side. They will give the appearance of being present to you while silently concentrating on their guru or using some other distraction technique.
Just like little kids who ignore all other words except "Yes" when nagging you
to give them junk food.
objection you have and desensitize themselves to you.
Here is one example that someone did learn about.
Disciples of gurus may possibly be taught to pretend to listen to your concerns while silently chanting mantras.
Perhaps they are trained to chant mantras if they hear anything from you
that comes across as skeptical, or threatens to trigger their own doubts.
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At one point, Sumerlin tried to leave - but first she had to get past several hall monitors who kept up the questioning. "it was before I learned that the only way to handle these people is to just say no," she adds. "Anything else gives them an opening to ask another question. They're trained on how to do it."
In fact, she says, a former volunteer told her how they were taught to desensitize themselves to objections from potential recruits by singing "Old MacDonald Had a Farm" and substituting all the possible objections people might have for the verses: "I'm not signing up because…of money. Ee-I-Ee-I-O. I'm not signing up because…I don't want to. Ee-I-Ei-I-O."
This is an example of how products of Werner Erhard's LGAT (Formerly est now Landmark) are trained.
This entire article is well worth reading.
When it comes to Landmark Education Corporation, There's no meeting of the Minds.
Westword/April 24, 1996
By Steve Jackson
[www.culteducation.com]
[webcache.googleusercontent.com]
One guru, Muktananda did learn to use methods derived from Lifespring
which in turn was a spin off of Werner Erhard's Est seminars, now known as Landmark Education.
Gurumayi, another guru, reportedly did a meditation that seemed ancient Hindu but that one of the Cult Education message board users identified as derived from a modern trance method called Neurolinguistic Programming.
[forum.culteducation.com]
If you are involved with a disciple of a guru like Muktananda or Gurumayi, you have no way to know if that disciple is capable of empathizing with you.
You have no way to know if that disciple is silently visualizing the guru or silently repeating mantras while pretending to listen to you, while pretending to be present to you when say or do anything that competes with loyalty to the guru.
These gurus operated 15 to 20 years ago.
By now, many more seemingly authentic gurus, Sufi masters and avatars (plus successors of illustrious dead gurus) are on the scene.
And using these powerful techniques so they can monopolize the inner lives of disciples, even teach disciples to pretend to listen to nonbelievers while
practicing inner trance focused on their guru.
In this predicament a guru's slave can seem to be respectful and empathic with friends, loved ones, even listen with seeming concern to skeptics and those who disagree.
But underneath there is no empathy from their side. They will give the appearance of being present to you while silently concentrating on their guru or using some other distraction technique.
Just like little kids who ignore all other words except "Yes" when nagging you
to give them junk food.