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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity

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I had a realization about my father that I never saw before, I always saw myself as the wayward kid, I didn't want to do the religious cult stuff, I just wanted to have fun and be myself.

My father would come down on me along with my mother to constantly try to push me back into the group and wanting me to use my talents to serve Chris Butler.

I never did and eventually they disowned me on Chris Butler's orders.

But only now I realize that my actions throughout my life had a profound effect on my dad, and I was leading by example, and he was following me all along.

We grew up hardcore religious cultists, and we were forbidden to listen to any music that wasn't Chris Butler himself singing. We believed all "normal" music was evil, and caused you to become ever further trapped in illusion. (Meaning you couldn't go to heaven if you listen to non chris Butler music)

We had no normal music at all, then at 13 I got into The Violent Femmes and The Red Hot Chilli Peppers, this lead into The Clash and other punk rock, but as soon as I was listening to this stuff, my dad started buying all his favorite old music on CD like Neil Young, Led Zeppelin, Traffic, Moody Blues and Lou Reed.

My mother was not thrilled, but I never put it together he got into that after I started exploring music for myself.

Then at age 15 I started skateboarding every day, it was my true passion. My dad was always a surfer, and we lived on Maui with plenty of good surf, but right when I got obsessed with skateboarding, my dad became a snowboarding fiend. He would go on long solo snowboarding trips at first, right when I was first getting into skating, then all he could say when he got back is how much I would love snowboarding because it's just like skating and all the snowboarders were cool guys like the skaters that I was becoming friends with.

He took us on plenty of snowboard trips, I went on a few just with my dad alone.

He loved it even more than surfing, and he wanted me to get more stoked on snowboarding than skating. He'd tell me "If I was your age, I'd just be snowboarding as much as I possibly could."

The next phase was in the year 2000 I personally had a massive spiritual awakening when I totally discarded the cult belief system. This was not known to my parents, but I adopted a "freestyle" spirituality, no man made belief systems, just honoring my intuition and living free was my direct connection to the universe or god. It was an amazingly positive time for me, and I went from a junk food eater to a hardcore raw food vegan. I was fasting and doing cleanses and I dropped a ton of weight for the first time in my life.

My mum and dad were blown away by my transformation and they followed my lead and got into the raw vegan diet with me. We all bonded greatly through that, and we all continued on with our vegan raw diets after I moved to SF up until after they cut off communication with me.

Every step of the way, my dad massively responded to positive actions I was making in my life and he followed my lead every single time.

Then came 2006 and I posted openly and honestly my opinions of the cult I was raised in and my parents were made to cut me off, ordered from the top with absolutely no compromise as I had publicly spoken against them and erasing that testimony was all that mattered to the cult.

Two years passed before his death, and his close non cult friends reported that he was really breaking out of his shell like never before. Having way more fun and indulging in certain forbidden pleasures by cult standards. He was showing a side of himself they had never seen and this all lead into them coming to visit me in 2008 and him knowing it was all coming to a head but he gave them my info.

So I think that just like every other phase where my dad had resonated with something new that I was doing, this was no different and I believe my dad was actually preparing to leave the cult or at least put his foot down and get back in communication with me.

My mother would have known, and in turn the command structure of the Chris Butler cult would have recognized the threat my father's defection would pose to them and they may have sent a cult member assassin to stay with them and poison my dad.

There are multiple cult members who all had access to their home, and they are expected to accommodate any cult member that the cult command structure needs them to. They lived on land that is constantly utilized by these cult members from around the globe.

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