Lb, you continue to place responsibility for my experience on only me, not understanding that this was a co-created dynamic, absolutely and completely fostered by the culture that Uma created (& demanded) around herself, and that I bought into.
She did actually say she is Truth. And Nature itself. And Kundalini. And Kali. And Death itself. And Source. I am not making those up.
And she did actually demand that we give credit to her when someone recognized some positive change in us. To fail to do so resulted in humiliation.
When I talk about trusting her to know me more than myself...I saw, for example, her tell people what their motivations are. And if they resisted and said that wasn't true, they were lambasted with harsh words and talks about how they are in doubt and how if she's not Truth to them, it won't work.
I see you taking pity on me. Please stop. You are holding yourself in a superior place. It's the same kind of benign superiority that is so prevalent in cult environments and many spiritual-leaning people.
I don't regret anything that happened. It hurt like hell, and was a serious mind-fuck, but I am glad for what I have grown into because of it.
It sounds like maybe Uma has changed her tune. If so, that's a good thing. It also sounds like you weren't/aren't in deep enough to be on the receiving end of the abusive shit. So what I am doing is warning you. It can get nasty in there. In a way that can be really psychologically damaging.
On that note, I'm not saying Uma suggested others to stay in abusive situations. I'm saying Uma creates abusive situations and calls people "pussies" for crying about it. And suggests that the rest of the world is "living a lie" and that you are choosing the lie if you walk away from her, ie Truth.
Again it sounds like you weren't exposed to these things. So how about you stop assuming others' experiences are wrong or that they were just lesser humans who don't get how to do spiritual student-ism the "right" way.
I have no interest in talking to Uma. Every person I have seen try has been met with anything but listening or true reception or acknowledgment. It feels futile. Which is why I'm glad people are speaking about the other side of Uma Inder.
Why did you come on to this board, anyway? It does feel like it's what rrmoderator was saying...you came to be an apologist or (subtly, "compassionately") attack anyone who speaks ill of Uma.
She did actually say she is Truth. And Nature itself. And Kundalini. And Kali. And Death itself. And Source. I am not making those up.
And she did actually demand that we give credit to her when someone recognized some positive change in us. To fail to do so resulted in humiliation.
When I talk about trusting her to know me more than myself...I saw, for example, her tell people what their motivations are. And if they resisted and said that wasn't true, they were lambasted with harsh words and talks about how they are in doubt and how if she's not Truth to them, it won't work.
I see you taking pity on me. Please stop. You are holding yourself in a superior place. It's the same kind of benign superiority that is so prevalent in cult environments and many spiritual-leaning people.
I don't regret anything that happened. It hurt like hell, and was a serious mind-fuck, but I am glad for what I have grown into because of it.
It sounds like maybe Uma has changed her tune. If so, that's a good thing. It also sounds like you weren't/aren't in deep enough to be on the receiving end of the abusive shit. So what I am doing is warning you. It can get nasty in there. In a way that can be really psychologically damaging.
On that note, I'm not saying Uma suggested others to stay in abusive situations. I'm saying Uma creates abusive situations and calls people "pussies" for crying about it. And suggests that the rest of the world is "living a lie" and that you are choosing the lie if you walk away from her, ie Truth.
Again it sounds like you weren't exposed to these things. So how about you stop assuming others' experiences are wrong or that they were just lesser humans who don't get how to do spiritual student-ism the "right" way.
I have no interest in talking to Uma. Every person I have seen try has been met with anything but listening or true reception or acknowledgment. It feels futile. Which is why I'm glad people are speaking about the other side of Uma Inder.
Why did you come on to this board, anyway? It does feel like it's what rrmoderator was saying...you came to be an apologist or (subtly, "compassionately") attack anyone who speaks ill of Uma.