Posted from an e-mail I received from Ian Koviak, with permission:
"Nobody is suing anyone. These are public personalities and institutions open to public scrutiny and criticism and opinion.
This is an institution that has millions of dollars that it's made off the backs of it's poor disciples. It's got questionable political ties, money laundering ties, drugs trafficking ties, illegal kids schools overseas, a guru with a crazy shady past and associations to ISKCON, a world class cover for pedophilia, drug trafficking, shady money making schemes etc.
Tulsi and siddha and then he one of their members who is in the public I would do themselves a great big service by vocally distancing themselves and making it known that they have nothing to do with and no allegiance to Chris Butler and his cult.
Siddha is a talent and has so much to give as a person. As does Tulsi--but associated with Butler they are like soured milk. Something is most definitely off.
Until a full investigation and extensive interviews prove otherwise, there is really no telling who is out on the boat. What is known as that there was an unacceptable amount of silence, and lack of ownership fir what happened other than a shameless few hundred dollar donation to the Shim family.
There is verbal testimony and transcripts of butler talks showing his utter delusion, lack of respect and compassion for his free slave labor followers who bow to him and eat his foot wash and cower if they fold his underwear wrong while sleeping on hard floors eating rotten Down to Earth food.
Shameless and thoughtless butler devotees, in butlers orders, sent their kids to illegal overseas schools where young boys and girls endured unneeded mental and physical confusion, pain, and heavy indoctrination (listening to countless bigoted, hateful and angry lectures by butler against women, homosexuals, his disciples and anyone who was not a devotee of his basically) while butler lived in beachside mansions and made millions so he could peddle BS about not being the body while he tended to his like a god on earth.
It took over 20 years for some followers to find a mild sense of normalcy.
Can we stop pretending that his disciples are not responsible and complicit? They are adults perpetuating butlers lies. Some on purpose, others unwittingly. We are here for the unwitting. The ones doing and following knowingly--no one can help them. This forum is for the unwitting. If it offends the ones protecting butlers lie out of a lifelong fear, oh fucking well.
There are many websites slamming gurus and people and organizations with shady history. It's called information. If occasionally you post a picture of one of these clowns dressed in a orange prison jump suit, let's call it what it is: funny.
Let's save political correctness for things that matter--not butlers dirty underwear."
"Nobody is suing anyone. These are public personalities and institutions open to public scrutiny and criticism and opinion.
This is an institution that has millions of dollars that it's made off the backs of it's poor disciples. It's got questionable political ties, money laundering ties, drugs trafficking ties, illegal kids schools overseas, a guru with a crazy shady past and associations to ISKCON, a world class cover for pedophilia, drug trafficking, shady money making schemes etc.
Tulsi and siddha and then he one of their members who is in the public I would do themselves a great big service by vocally distancing themselves and making it known that they have nothing to do with and no allegiance to Chris Butler and his cult.
Siddha is a talent and has so much to give as a person. As does Tulsi--but associated with Butler they are like soured milk. Something is most definitely off.
Until a full investigation and extensive interviews prove otherwise, there is really no telling who is out on the boat. What is known as that there was an unacceptable amount of silence, and lack of ownership fir what happened other than a shameless few hundred dollar donation to the Shim family.
There is verbal testimony and transcripts of butler talks showing his utter delusion, lack of respect and compassion for his free slave labor followers who bow to him and eat his foot wash and cower if they fold his underwear wrong while sleeping on hard floors eating rotten Down to Earth food.
Shameless and thoughtless butler devotees, in butlers orders, sent their kids to illegal overseas schools where young boys and girls endured unneeded mental and physical confusion, pain, and heavy indoctrination (listening to countless bigoted, hateful and angry lectures by butler against women, homosexuals, his disciples and anyone who was not a devotee of his basically) while butler lived in beachside mansions and made millions so he could peddle BS about not being the body while he tended to his like a god on earth.
It took over 20 years for some followers to find a mild sense of normalcy.
Can we stop pretending that his disciples are not responsible and complicit? They are adults perpetuating butlers lies. Some on purpose, others unwittingly. We are here for the unwitting. The ones doing and following knowingly--no one can help them. This forum is for the unwitting. If it offends the ones protecting butlers lie out of a lifelong fear, oh fucking well.
There are many websites slamming gurus and people and organizations with shady history. It's called information. If occasionally you post a picture of one of these clowns dressed in a orange prison jump suit, let's call it what it is: funny.
Let's save political correctness for things that matter--not butlers dirty underwear."